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Taylor, please give us your definition of "regular people." When you're done with that, please explain how you "know that they [liberals] don't like america as much as regular people." Finally, please identify the scientific apparatus used to verifiably rank how much someone loves their country.

Thanks.
 
If it's "too easy" then please refute, that's all i've been asking for this whole time is a debate sheesh!

It took me all of 1 minute to refute your so-called "solid reason":

The trend persists when libs are in power, out of power, several years in, several years out... frustration over party politics seems to have little to do with happiness:

http://pewresearch.org/assets/social/pdf/AreWeHappyYet.pdf
(see page 13)

It also shows that when democrats have power, the gap is almost negligible. This proved out during Carter's presidency, and Clinton's to a lesser extent(During Carter's presidency, the poll is within the margin of error). Hmm, sounds kinda like what I have been saying...
 
How so? Do you think the word of a psychologist is somehow infallible?

Of course not... I think they are all nuts, but by your post there is no possible way to have proof of anything.

You either take the word of experts when you yourself are not an expert, or if you don't, all you have left is your own opinion... and as we have all seen, opinions and $5 will get you a cup of coffee.
 
Of course not... I think they are all nuts, but by your post there is no possible way to have proof of anything.

You either take the word of experts when you yourself are not an expert, or if you don't, all you have left is your own opinion... and as we have all seen, opinions and $5 will get you a cup of coffee.

Then it becomes theory, not fact. Considering that happiness is a subjective term, it would impossible to factually say that Conservatives are more happy.
 
This may be your opinion, but it isn't presented in proper terms. There is no qualifier to show that these are your opinions. By all outward appearances you are making a blanket statement about all liberals.
That's an error in comprehension, as I've already explained ad naseum.
 
It seems to me the main premise presented is that Conservatives tend to be better at rationalizing, as exemplified by Jost's research in what he calls "System justifications theory"

So do conservatives tend to be happier, or just tend to be more able to rationalize and justify that they are happy?
 
That's an error in comprehension, as I've already explained ad naseum.

You haven't explained a single thing. All I've seen from you thus far is dodging legitimate questions.
 
It also shows that when democrats have power, the gap is almost negligible. This proved out during Carter's presidency, and Clinton's to a lesser extent(During Carter's presidency, the poll is within the margin of error). Hmm, sounds kinda like what I have been saying...

So what you are saying is that all of the time conservatives are as happy or happier than liberals, and most of the time conservatives are happier. :mrgreen:
 
It seems to me the main premise presented is that Conservatives tend to be better at rationalizing, as exemplified by Jost's research in what he calls "System justifications theory"

So do conservatives tend to be happier, or just tend to be more able to rationalize that they are happy?

I think I'm happy, therefore I am.
 
Precisely, but what happiness is to you isn't necessarily the same for everyone.

When I hit my thumb with a hammer, my pain isn't the same as it is for everyone else.... but it's still pain.
 
When I hit my thumb with a hammer, my pain isn't the same as it is for everyone else.... but it's still pain.

Yes, but you are talking about physical feelings and I'm talking about emotional feelings.
 
Using your yardstick:

Gravity: Opinion
Newtonian Physics: Opinion
Evolution: Opinion
Big Bang: Opinion

The list goes on.

Gravity: Both a theory and a law. The law of gravity defines that if an object is dropped on this planet, it will fall. Gravitational theory explains how and why it does this.

Newtonian Physics: Same as above.

Evolution: Theory

Big Bang: Theory
 
It also shows that when democrats have power, the gap is almost negligible. This proved out during Carter's presidency, and Clinton's to a lesser extent(During Carter's presidency, the poll is within the margin of error). Hmm, sounds kinda like what I have been saying...
There's a 32 year trend with every year Republican happier than Democrat, but you want to claim it's because of who the president was at the time because during two of the four year Carter administration they were close. Do I have this right? :lol:
 
Both are subjective.

Pain is not subjective. Degrees of pain vary, but pain is an absolute. Emotions are far more complex. What makes a person feel various emotions is subjective. Like I said, you can't compare physical pain and emotional pain because they are two very very different things.
 
No... my point made, yours relegated to the round file.

Nahh you just rationalized your happiness because you think that you are happy.

I'm sure there are many depressed people out there who thought they were happy just prior to the fall as well. Thought does have power, but thinking you are happy, and being happy are not the same entity.

And again we have the matter of happiness being subjective.. what a Tibetan monk considers happiness is not the same as what a wall street exec. considers happiness, which is not the same as what preacher considers happiness, which is not the same as what a jungle dwelling Amazon native considers happiness.

So what is happiness, and why isnt this thread in the religion and philosophy forum :2razz:
 
Finally, when one wears his Christianity on his sleeve, there always seems to be some motive, such as wanting to execute gays. That, of course, is not Jesus, but Satan working in his life.

Why is it that you love to selectively pick a single lunatic from the fringe and then make broad generalizations for all Christians which cannot be supported by any facts?

Many times, I find it hard to tell your comments from the typical conspiracy lunatics out there. :roll:
 
Pain is not subjective. Degrees of pain vary, but pain is an absolute.
Tell this to an amputee.
Emotions are far more complex. What makes a person feel various emotions is subjective. Like I said, you can't compare physical pain and emotional pain because they are two very very different things.

I can and I did... so you are wrong again
 
Oh god... where do I find that facepalm smiley? LOL

As I said earlier, I try to stay away from group identities, I'm my own person. You can bash conservatives all you want, I assure you I won't take it personally.

I never bashed conservatives. You're the one making outrageous generalizations about a group of people.
 
Before this conversation gets too philosophical, perhaps in the future, Taylor, you could just be more articulate so that we can discern the difference in your posts from what you are stating as fact and what you are stating as opinion.
 
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