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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Sorry. Fail. I like you, would love to see you spank Glinda further, but you're mistaken here.
    In what way? This is irrelevant to my argument. I'm not making an inductive fallacy.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
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    The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of
    military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities
    could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists
    Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are
    attractive to rightwing extremists.
    http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

    If you have bumper stickers on your cars that support third-party candidates, the Constitution, state sovereignty, a church or Christian symbols, the National Rifle Association and pro gun slogans, and other conservative slogans, state police are supposed to approach your car with caution. This is clearly an attack on the First Amendment coming from the Governor’s office, as well as Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC). According the report, if you defend the Constitution, federalism, the fight against legal immigration, and other issues, the state of Missouri may be collecting information about you geared towards labeling you as a domestic terrorist. I bet, considering my views on Governor Nixon, I may already be on the list. This attacks all conservative views.
    BBCW: Is Your Bumper Sticker Labeling You a Domestic Terrorist?: Bumper Sticker Profiling in Missouri

    miac strategic report pdf:

    http://www.constitution.org/abus/le/...gic-report.pdf

    "Jay" Nixon, Govenor of Missouri:

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Nixon]Jay Nixon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Specifically: Dem Rep. Brian Baird of Washington State has canceled in-person town halls, citing the protestors’ use of “Brown Shirt tactics.” The Colombian reports…

    Instead of appearing in person, where “extremists” would have “the chance to shout and make YouTube videos,” Baird said Wednesday, he’s holding what he calls “telephone town halls” instead.

    Baird said he’s using the new system because he fears his political opponents may be planning “an ambush” to disrupt his meetings, using methods Baird compared to Nazism.

    “What we’re seeing right now is close to Brown Shirt tactics,” Baird, D-Vancouver, said in a phone interview. “I mean that very seriously.”
    Dem Congressman Cancels Town Halls, Says He Fears “Brown Shirt Tactics” | The Plum Line

    I could go on and on.... but us terrorists get the point, and we are proud of it.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    As I said earlier, I did substantiate my claims. Not as well as I would have liked, but this is a discussion board, no? Are we not allowed to discuss our thoughts until someone else has come to a conclusion? Sheesh.

    BTW, there's lots of evidence that liberals are not as happy as conservatives:
    (hopefully I can paste links in here)

    Why Are Conservatives Happier Than Liberals?
    http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic526279.files
    /Napier%20Jost%20Why%20Are%20Conservatives%20Happie r.pdf

    Why are liberals so bummed out?
    Why Conservatives Say They Are Happier Than Liberals - US News and World Report

    Smile if (and Only if) You're Conservative
    George F. Will - Smile if (and Only if) You're Conservative - washingtonpost.com

    It makes sense when you think about it. The democratic party attracts a confederacy of unhappy people: welfare recipients, people living off of social security, certain minority groups, etc. Further, Liberal dogma teaches people that they've been oppressed and that they need help from government in order to make their dreams come true (external locus of control).

    Now it may be the case that these people love their country as much as those who are generally happier and don't share that same worldview, but I doubt it.
    Hmm ... the Limbaugh is strong in this one.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You made the claim, it is up to you to prove it.
    I'm trying to debate here, and you all want to ignore the thinking part and jump right in to copy what others have thought and decided to write down. If you want to debate, please provide some evidence. It need not be conclusive. The goal here is to weigh evidence from both sides.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is precisely the problem with your presentation of liberals in your first post here. You attempted to present it as fact, when in reality, like you liking pizza, it is only opinion. Just because you like pizza, doesn't mean that pizza is good. It means that, most likely, pizza is good FOR YOU. See the difference?
    That's not the context I was using the pizza analogy. It is a fact that I like pizza... but that doesn't mean I like every single pizza ever made.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Which is your opinion.
    Have I stumbled into the twilight zone? When you guys have conflicting opinions you call the debate over and hope that someone else will step up to the plate so you'll have a handy link?

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Oddly enough, I recall a couple of liberal pundits, after the 2004 re-election of Bush, stating that "maybe we should let the red states succeed"...because they were bummed out that the aforementioned red states had given the White House to the Republicans again.

    I've said it before: Democracy works as long as the 50%-1 is willing to let the 50%+1 rule over them. When they stop being willing to suffer that rule, things start falling apart.

    I know many of you scoff, but all it would take would be the passage of one sufficiently inflammatory law to send a significant minority of the population into armed rebellion...which is how the Revolution started.

    It just might be better to consider revisiting Federalism and allowing the States more internal autonomy before we get to that point, rather than letting it all come apart at the seams.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Hmm ... the Limbaugh is strong in this one.
    Kinder words were never spoken.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Oddly enough, I recall a couple of liberal pundits, after the 2004 re-election of Bush, stating that "maybe we should let the red states succeed"...because they were bummed out that the aforementioned red states had given the White House to the Republicans again.

    I've said it before: Democracy works as long as the 50%-1 is willing to let the 50%+1 rule over them. When they stop being willing to suffer that rule, things start falling apart.

    I know many of you scoff, but all it would take would be the passage of one sufficiently inflammatory law to send a significant minority of the population into armed rebellion...which is how the Revolution started.

    It just might be better to consider revisiting Federalism and allowing the States more internal autonomy before we get to that point, rather than letting it all come apart at the seams.
    You... you mean.... you mean go back to the Constitutional form of Government.... like, the way it was written?

    I'm shocked, truely shocked.

    That's so, like, yesterday.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I have no problem following generalizations, but you need to identify them as such, not as facts. These are your opinions that you have presented.
    A generalization is not the same thing as an opinion. Let me try to explain this to you again (for everyone's benefit).

    Men are taller than women.

    Generally speaking, this is fact. I need not say that "some men" are taller than "some women" AT THE SAME TIME I'm not implying that every man is taller than every woman.

    Guess what?
    SUVs are less fuel efficient than cars.
    Travel by air is faster than travel by train.
    Beef contains more fat than turkey
    and on and on and on...

    These are facts. Nonetheless, all of these are "generally true" but are not always true. This is not a difficult concept.

    Come on! You make me sad for your significant other!
    "I'm hungry for some burgers!"
    "No you're not, you're overgeneralizing"
    "Huh?! No I meant it, I want to eat a burger"
    "You say that you want to eat a burger, but what you really mean is that you only want to eat some burgers. Please don't lie to me next time, just tell me that you're generalizing your hunger preference to round, patty-shaped chopped beef of a suitable fat content that is grilled to a precise temperature."

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    But, when you issue a proclamation that liberals don't love America, that's both unproveable and offensive. Deal with it.
    Nobody claimed that. I really must be in the twilight zone.

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