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Got a link to the magic new thingamabobber that accurately measures happiness?
Let me save you some time. In fields known as the "social sciences" they often must rely on what are called hypothetical constructs. Happiness is one of these. So are presidential favorability ratings, personality assessments, attitudes, beliefs, persuasions, and just about anything you'll ever find on a survey.
 
Both use the same Pew survey as their starting point:



Again, note the date of the study, at a period of time where liberals had been several years without power, and feeling quite frustrated as a result.

Got a link for that opinion?
 
see post 117

I see the usage of the same word both in your references, and her post as well.

Subjective.

So now is subjective happiness actually happiness, or just a willingness to cling to the belief of happiness??
 
I see the usage of the same word both in your references, and her post as well.

Subjective.

So now is subjective happiness actually happiness, or just a willingness to cling to the belief of happiness??

First you libs want some kinda link to backup her statement.... you get it, then you complain that it's subjective when it's a subjective emotion.

Heads you win, tails she loses.... libs.
 
Both use the same Pew survey as their starting point:

Read it again.... Pew did the survey, NYU did the study to find out why.

Conservatives are happier than liberals. This according to a 2006 Pew Research Center survey cited in a paper published this month in Psychological Science.

But New York University researchers set out to isolate the reasons why right-wingers would have greater subjective well-being than left-wingers.
Again, note the date of the study, at a period of time where liberals had been several years without power, and feeling quite frustrated as a result.
 
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First you libs want some kinda link to backup her statement.... you get it, then you complain that it's subjective when it's a subjective emotion.

Heads you win, tails she loses.... libs.

Nope.. because the link does not back up her statement, and just because I have a "label" next to my name saying I am a lib does not mean that I wanted a link to back up her claims just because a few other libs requested such, nor does that mean that I fall under the generalization of all libs either ;)

The point is the emotion is subjective, which you just stated, and as such can not be "measured"
 
I also explain why I disagree with a solid reason.
Really? I didn't see any proof or data. Here you go again claiming a "solid reason" -- but that's just your opinion.

Wow, this game is incredibly boring. When can we get back to discussing the issues?
 
Let me save you some time. In fields known as the "social sciences" they often must rely on what are called hypothetical constructs. Happiness is one of these.

Right. The methodology is to ask people how happy they are on a scale of 1 to 10. Utterly and completely subjective.


Scientists Discover How to Measure Happiness Exactly


Now here is the scientific, complex measurement process of which they speak:

Social scientists measure happiness simply by asking people how happy they are.​


This is the scientific breakthrough the world has waited for. The mad scientist asks, "How happy are you on a scale of 1 to 10?"

"About five", you say, thinking of great sex, a good movie, and a surly waitress at lunch.

"Aha", says he/she, "you are a moderately happy person."

It is scientific and high-tech.
NOT!
 
Read it again.... Pew did the survey, NYU did the study to find out why.

I understand that. It is still using dated information, guesswork(you did read the study, right?), to explain something that may or may not be true any more.
 
Really? I didn't see any proof or data. Here you go again claiming a "solid reason" -- but that's just your opinion.

Wow, this game is incredibly boring. When can we get back to discussing the issues?

I gave a solid reason for my opinion. Now, since as you state you want to go back to discussion the issue, can you defend you statement that liberals love their country less than "regular people", or are you going to continue to duck away from that statement?
 
I understand that. It is still using dated information, guesswork(you did read the study, right?), to explain something that may or may not be true any more.

Head you win, tails I lose.... got it.
 
I gave a solid reason for my opinion. Now, since as you state you want to go back to discussion the issue, can you defend you statement that liberals love their country less than "regular people", or are you going to continue to duck away from that statement?
I provided "solid reasons" earlier in this thread, which you chose to ignore. Please review.
 
Why is my statement wrong? It's liberals who snivel at people who are outwardly patriotic. And it's liberals that are always obsessed with changing the country -- i.e. it's not good the way it is. It's liberals that are embarrassed about our country and apologize for it.

I have no doubt that if I were to submit a "how much do you love your country" survey (say scale 1 to 10)... liberals would score lower.

I provided "solid reasons" earlier in this thread, which you chose to ignore. Please review.

Really, you make this too easy. Those are not even remotely solid reasons. They are easily countered by "it's conservatives talking about seceding from the US". I have now offered as much backing for why liberals love their country more than conservatives, as you have to back your argument that it's the other way around.
 
I understand that. It is still using dated information, guesswork(you did read the study, right?), to explain something that may or may not be true any more.
Did you not read that it goes back to 1972? That's over 30 consecutive years of the same trend.
 
Taylor, are you happy?

If so, how happy?

Can an independent source confirm this happiness level?
 
Really, you make this too easy. Those are not even remotely solid reasons. They are easily countered by "it's conservatives talking about seceding from the US". I have now offered as much backing for why liberals love their country more than conservatives, as you have to back your argument that it's the other way around.
If it's "too easy" then please refute, that's all i've been asking for this whole time is a debate sheesh!

It took me all of 1 minute to refute your so-called "solid reason":

The trend persists when libs are in power, out of power, several years in, several years out... frustration over party politics seems to have little to do with happiness:

http://pewresearch.org/assets/social/pdf/AreWeHappyYet.pdf
(see page 13)
 
Is this the liberals? I know that they don't like america as much as regular people.

This may be your opinion, but it isn't presented in proper terms. There is no qualifier to show that these are your opinions. By all outward appearances you are making a blanket statement about all liberals. Not only that, but you have failed to explain what you mean by "regular people." Are you talking in generalized terms or just what you consider "regular people"? I realize that you are getting annoyed with people scrutinizing this stuff, but you need to be more articulate in the future so as to avoid confusion and so that you don't come off as a partisan hack.
 
Taylor, are you happy?

If so, how happy?

Can an independent source confirm this happiness level?
If you have an alternative explanation for the data, please go ahead and make it. We don't bite (hard).
 
Everything in the world is opinion by your definition then.... everything.

How so? Do you think the word of a psychologist is somehow infallible?
 
If you have an alternative explanation for the data, please go ahead and make it. We don't bite (hard).

The data is unverifiable and there is no universally recognized standard for happiness, because it is a hypothetical construct(an idea or concept that has no physical properties). It doesn't lend itself to empirical data.
 
Everything in the world is opinion by your definition then.... everything.

No, much of the universe does lend itself to empirical data.
 
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