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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I don't think you want to go down that road, hero.
    I'm sorry that's my opinion. I'm happy to keep it to myself.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    That's why I included the titles. Just put "Why Are Conservatives Happier Than Liberals?" into google.


    Did you want to discuss his arguments, or are you just that close minded?
    Well, lets look at the argument:

    Half of the difference between conservatives and liberals is demographic. It has to do with religion and marriage, which is more frequent among conservatives.
    Hey look, he uses unsubstantiated guesses too.


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    ...describing a pew research study that you apparently overlooked or really just don't care to learn anything and would rather debate semantics.

    Have fun with that.
    Well, let's look at this one too:

    A survey by the Pew Research Center shows that conservatives are happier than liberals -- in all income groups. While 34 percent of all Americans call themselves "very happy," only 28 percent of liberal Democrats (and 31 percent of moderate or conservative Democrats) do, compared with 47 percent of conservative Republicans. This finding is niftily self-reinforcing: It depresses liberals.
    Note the article is from 2006, which means the study was from before that...maybe from when republicans had control of the congress and WH? Wonder why, at that time, democrats where less happy than republicans, and even moreso, I wonder if that has changed. I bet it has.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

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    I'm sorry that's my opinion. I'm happy to keep it to myself.
    I'm sorry that's your opinion, too.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

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    No my opinion is that you don't have a clue what you're talking about half the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I don't think you want to go down that road, hero.
    Excellent point. Watch the personal attacks, Taylor. It's one thing to debate "hard". It's another to get personal.
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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

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    Like I said, we can discuss in another thread. You'd be wrong because the trend is not income-dependent.
    Yes, let's go back to your original assertion, that liberals love their country less than "regular people". I am still waiting for an explanation on this.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Just a guess, but I suppose it is important to Taylor that conservatives are happier, because she self identifies as a conservative.
    Oh god... where do I find that facepalm smiley? LOL

    As I said earlier, I try to stay away from group identities, I'm my own person. You can bash conservatives all you want, I assure you I won't take it personally.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    ABSTRACT—In this research,we drew on system-justification
    theory and the notion that conservative ideology serves a
    palliative function to explain why conservatives are happier
    than liberals. Specifically, in three studies using nationally
    representative data from the United States and nine additional
    countries, we found that right-wing (vs. left-wing)
    orientation is indeed associated with greater subjective wellbeing
    and that the relation between political orientation and
    subjective well-being is mediated by the rationalization of
    inequality. In our third study, we found that increasing
    economic inequality (as measured by the Gini index) from
    1974 to 2004 has exacerbated the happiness gap between
    liberals and conservatives, apparently because conservatives
    (more than liberals) possess an ideological buffer
    against the negative hedonic effects of economic inequality.
    http://www.psych.nyu.edu/jost/Napier...han%20libe.pdf

    June 24, 2008

    Why Are Conservatives Happier Than Liberals?
    Conservatives have greater subjective life satisfaction than liberals, according to a Pew Research Center survey. Two New York University researchers performed three studies to find out why. Christie Nicholson reports.

    Conservatives are happier than liberals. This according to a 2006 Pew Research Center survey cited in a paper published this month in Psychological Science.

    But New York University researchers set out to isolate the reasons why right-wingers would have greater subjective well-being than left-wingers.

    They collected data from nearly 1,200 people from the 2000 American National Election Study and found that above the effects of gender, marital status, income, religion and age, the reason for this happiness disparity can be distilled to the separate ideologies of liberals and conservatives.
    Why Are Conservatives Happier Than Liberals?: Scientific American Podcast

    Looks like she is right.... unless you libs can come up with this type of research for an opposite view.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yes I did.. now if you could please explain that concept as it applies to facts vs. opinions to the rest of the folks, I'd much appreciate it.
    Sure. "Happiness" is a completely subjective emotion. It cannot be measured or ranked in any realistic, scientific way. Any assertion that group X is happier than group Y is an opinion and nothing more.

    Same thing with group A "loving America more/more patriotic" than group B.

    Your assertions about liberals are nothing more than partisan hackery.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I'm sorry that's your opinion, too.
    Yes, hopefully it will change, but I've got limited material to work with thus far.

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    Re: 'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Sure. "Happiness" is a completely subjective emotion. It cannot be measured or ranked in any realistic, scientific way. Any assertion that group X is happier than group Y is an opinion and nothing more.

    Same thing with group A "loving America more/more patriotic" than group B.

    Your assertions about liberals are nothing more than partisan hackery.
    see post 117

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