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    Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    HR 3200 just keeps getting better and better. Health care threads aren't really about health care, anymore. They're more about how many Dems aren't going to see the halls of Congress, ever again.

    Section 431(a) of the bill says that the IRS must divulge taxpayer identity information, including the filing status, the modified adjusted gross income, the number of dependents, and "other information as is prescribed by" regulation. That information will be provided to the new Health Choices Commissioner and state health programs and used to determine who qualifies for "affordability credits."

    Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data - Taking Liberties - CBS News
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    Re: Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    HR 3200 just keeps getting better and better. Health care threads aren't really about health care, anymore. They're more about how many Dems aren't going to see the halls of Congress, ever again.
    Why would they be about that? Many Democrats don't support the health care bill, which is why the bill cannot pass in the current Democrat controlled Congress.

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    Re: Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Why would they be about that? Many Democrats don't support the health care bill, which is why the bill cannot pass in the current Democrat controlled Congress.

    But, there are Dems that do support it. Those are the ones I'm referring to.
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    Re: Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    What a pointless thread.

    A non-story if there ever was one.

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    Re: Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    What a pointless thread.

    A non-story if there ever was one.
    Then don't bother posting.
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    Re: Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    No, I will post.

    I will post about how meaningless this story is.

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    Re: Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    HR 3200 just keeps getting better and better. Health care threads aren't really about health care, anymore. They're more about how many Dems aren't going to see the halls of Congress, ever again.
    Let me explain to you how that will work. The information will come in standardized from the tax system, read by a scanner and then all of the data will be assigned either numbers or letters and then automatically compared to a check list by a computer. Those who meet certain requirements will automatically be sorted into acceptance with the rest rejected. The only time a federal employee will see the information is when they check the approved list and even then they won't actually see the raw data, merely numbers or letters that have been assigned to represent criteria.

    The notion that federal employees will be checking each person's information is insane. You'd need thousands to do that. Furthermore, it's not that hard to get anyone's tax return anyways or at least figure out their basic information from peeking into their public facts.

    And this way, it will reduce the number of people who can afford but are abusing the system. If we're going to get this system, let's at least reduce the fraud and abuse in it.
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    Re: Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Let me explain to you how that will work. The information will come in standardized from the tax system, read by a scanner and then all of the data will be assigned either numbers or letters and then automatically compared to a check list by a computer. Those who meet certain requirements will automatically be sorted into acceptance with the rest rejected. The only time a federal employee will see the information is when they check the approved list and even then they won't actually see the raw data, merely numbers or letters that have been assigned to represent criteria.

    The notion that federal employees will be checking each person's information is insane. You'd need thousands to do that. Furthermore, it's not that hard to get anyone's tax return anyways or at least figure out their basic information from peeking into their public facts.

    And this way, it will reduce the number of people who can afford but are abusing the system. If we're going to get this system, let's at least reduce the fraud and abuse in it.
    And, you can provide docs to support everything you just said, yes?
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    Re: Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Let me explain to you how that will work. The information will come in standardized from the tax system, read by a scanner and then all of the data will be assigned either numbers or letters and then automatically compared to a check list by a computer. Those who meet certain requirements will automatically be sorted into acceptance with the rest rejected. The only time a federal employee will see the information is when they check the approved list and even then they won't actually see the raw data, merely numbers or letters that have been assigned to represent criteria.

    The notion that federal employees will be checking each person's information is insane. You'd need thousands to do that. Furthermore, it's not that hard to get anyone's tax return anyways or at least figure out their basic information from peeking into their public facts.

    And this way, it will reduce the number of people who can afford but are abusing the system. If we're going to get this system, let's at least reduce the fraud and abuse in it.
    Was this the same argument you made FOR the NSA monitoring of phone calls?

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    Re: Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, you can provide docs to support everything you just said, yes?
    Not to level you'd accept.
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