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    Re: CIA enhanced interigation docs released. Cheney responds

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Your post demonstrates that you care more about Semitics than saving lives.
    My post demonstrates that I want people to own up to what the **** they are doing. People trying to pussyfoot around things, dehumanize certain folk, try to call something its not all so they don't have to face what it is they call for. Grow a spine and deal head on with what you want to do.

    Your post is nothing but conjecture and propaganda as if saying people should call torture torture costs lives. Stupid.
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    Re: CIA enhanced interigation docs released. Cheney responds

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    My post demonstrates that I want people to own up to what the **** they are doing. People trying to pussyfoot around things, dehumanize certain folk, try to call something its not all so they don't have to face what it is they call for. Grow a spine and deal head on with what you want to do.

    Your post is nothing but conjecture and propaganda as if saying people should call torture torture costs lives. Stupid.
    Let's see, still not a single word about lives being saved. We see where your priorities are.
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    Re: CIA enhanced interigation docs released. Cheney responds

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Let's see, still not a single word about lives being saved. We see where your priorities are.
    Blah blah blah..."I'm going to equate honesty with wanting people to die".

    Stupid. Come back when you bring the IQ of your arguments up a bit more.
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    Re: CIA enhanced interigation docs released. Cheney responds

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Your post demonstrates that you care more about Semitics than saving lives.
    It's easy for some folks to see things like that, because they believe that it's not their asses on the line, nor do they think it ever will. Put any one of them in the WTC at about 9 am September 11, 2001 and bet they'll be screaming to rip that MF'ers arm off to make him talk.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: CIA enhanced interigation docs released. Cheney responds

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's the most naive view point of war that I've ever heard. You're not going to kill the enemy with good intentions. History has proven that the side that responds with most speed and violence is the winner.

    Were we worried about, "ideals an integrity", when we turned Tokyo into ashes? How 'bout when we leveled Hamburg, Dresdin, Berlin and Stuttgart? What about when we caused 15,000 French casualties during the invasion of Normandy? No, we didn't. Why? Because without victory all those, "ideals and integrity", didn't mean ****.

    Those, "ideals and integity", are what brought us 9/11.
    I would rather die in a terrorist bombing attack than torture an individual which is against the law. Sorry folks but some things are worth dying for. One of those things are the integrity, honor and principles of our nation. To lie and beat around the bush (no pun intended) is to spit on the graves of every soldier that has died in the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. They go to fight for the ideals of this nation and then the people back here are going about doing things they know are illegal and frankly beneath us. You can try to justify it all you want, but there is no way that will ever be properly moral or ethical.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: CIA enhanced interigation docs released. Cheney responds

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    I would rather die in a terrorist bombing attack than torture an individual which is against the law.
    Well said from someone's idea if real danger is jay walking. Only a dumb kid, who don't know **** from shinola would say something like that.

    Ya know, I don't mean to be such a smartass, but you can't place your moral tone above the lives of other Americans.
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    Re: CIA enhanced interigation docs released. Cheney responds

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There is in upholding ones ideals, integrity, and resolve though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    I would rather die in a terrorist bombing attack than torture an individual which is against the law. Sorry folks but some things are worth dying for. One of those things are the integrity, honor and principles of our nation. To lie and beat around the bush (no pun intended) is to spit on the graves of every soldier that has died in the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. They go to fight for the ideals of this nation and then the people back here are going about doing things they know are illegal and frankly beneath us. You can try to justify it all you want, but there is no way that will ever be properly moral or ethical.
    You sound just like those clowns that talk about the, "glory of battle". You probably hate people like that, but can't understand how much you resemble them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    "There were young knights among them who had never been present at a stricken field. Some could not look upon it and some could not speak and they held themselves apart from the others who were cutting down the prisoners at My Lord's orders, for the prisoners were a body too numerous to be guarded by those of us who were left. Then Jean de Rye, an aged knight of Burgundy who had been sore wounded in the battle, rode up to the group of young knights and said: 'Are ye maidens with your downcast eyes? Look well upon it. See all of it. Close your eyes to nothing. For a battle is fought to be won. And it is this that happens if you lose."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: CIA enhanced interigation docs released. Cheney responds

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You sound just like those clowns that talk about the, "glory of battle". You probably hate people like that, but can't understand how much you resemble them.
    Nope, there is no glory in war and the two circumstances are completely different. Give me a break.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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