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Canadians visit U.S. to get health care

Smoke[MaxX] said:
1) It costs a higher percentage probably because it covers a higher percentage of people. To me, other people's lives are more important than pocket change.
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Nobody is stopping you from donating your pocket change, but like most hypocrites you're a big champion of your cause as long as someone else foots the bill.

There would be a lot of savings if US went single payer. I don't know how much,
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Then how do you know there would be?

but it has a lot of advantages such as easy access to patient's records from anywhere (instead of calling and requesting a copy of paper records) and allowing more people to work with smaller recovery periods.
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How do you know this?

Also, Medicare on steroids? Wouldn't that be an even higher satisfaction percentage than what we have now?
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Medicare has been in the red for years and is insolvent. It's the third highest expenditure of the Federal government and is going bankrupt. Remember, we have an $11 trillion debt to pay back and that isn't including the $9 trillion that the Dalai Bama wants to add on over the next ten years.
 
Middleground said:
Do you honestly think that Canadians get treated by vets? Where in the heck did you hear that? :lol: :confused:

And you actually think that Canadians do not get healthcare after 65? Where in the heck did you hear that? :lol: :confused:

My dad, who is 78, is currently going through chemo. And if you think you're right, why do Canadians live longer than Americans? :lol:
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There are a lot of reasons not related to health care as to why American life expectancy is lower than most other first world nations.

As to the rest of what you said, I would agree with you that he doesn't seem all that astute on the subject.
 
Don't Tase Me Bro said:
What makes it the job of the Congress to do anything about it at all?
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If you're waiting for the government to get busy making things perfect, then you've got a long wait ahead of you.
 
apdst said:
The point isn't that Canadian health costs more, or that American health care is broke.

All we've heard from th foreigners is how much better their systems are and how much our's sucks. It appears that the Canadian health care system isn't all it's cracked up to be, if they're exporting patients to the United States.
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Canada is not - is not - exporting patients to the United States in any statisclly significant numbers.

That notion that Canadians are travelling to the US more than usual, or in many numbers is categorically false.
 
Baralis said:
Canadian health care has alot of issues and also costs alot more then ours. I heard yesterday that about 42% of Canada's tax revenue went into the health care system. Thats alot more expensive then ours. Some Canadian officals in the health care system believe it is near the breaking point.

A single payer system in the US would be like Medicare on steroids. I see no way we could afford it unless we taxed everyone 60%+.
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It is not more expensive than the US system. That is another false claim.
 
Don't Tase Me Bro said:
That depends on your definition of quality.
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They live longer than we do. Must be getting decent health care, eh? And they support their system across the board. Odd thing to support if it's so bad, eh?
 
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PeteEU said:
CHIS News - May 26, 2009

And a half million Americans at least go to Mexico for healthcare..

Or how about the 30.000+ that travel to Thailand for healthcare?

How about India?

Or how about those American's that dont get any healthcare at all because they cant afford it?
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"488,000 were Mexican immigrants,"
 
PeteEU said:
Guess you did not read the article or just choose to ignore the other 95% of it... typical right winger.
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Care to explain this?
 
stekim said:
They live longer than we do. Must be getting decent health care, eh? And they support their system across the board. Odd thing to support if it's so bad, eh?
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What are their demographics? Are they the same as ours?
 
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American said:
What are their demographics? Are they the same as ours?
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Doesn't much matter, does it? No matter what your demographics are, if you have low grade, crappy health care you will die sooner on average. Place a bunch of people of ANY demographic in Sudan and see how long they live (not including homicide).

I'm not suggesting we switch to their system, but let's not play the partisan spin game here. Canadians do not suffer from a lack of quality care. Simple as that. Their system works quite well for them. Which is why they like it and would not switch systems if given the chance.
 
American said:
Maybe because the thread is about Canadians.
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Well I can definitively tell you Canadians do not go to the US for care in any significant numbers.

It is simply not true.
 
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American said:
Maybe because the thread is about Canadians.
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American, we both know that apdst is attempting to make cases against universal health care and that is the only reason people in this country even care about the Canadian Health Care System. Otherwise, most Americans wouldn't give a hoot about our brothers and sisters to the north. Hell, most Americans haven't a clue about it anyway (the misinformation is mind boggling) and they have no clue about Canadian government, laws, etc. This obsession with their UHC centers on our current need for a Public Option.

I have posted that Americans go elsewhere as well. It shows that the argument means nothing in the context of the debate.
 
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