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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Lets get real here. Both sides have nutjobs in their base, but its quite obvious that the Republicans right now have a significantly larger number of nutjobs in their base then the Democrats have in their base.

    Being you are up there in NYC, I don't think you really have an accurate picture of how extreme many in the Republican base have become. Those New York Republicans, they are anomalies. They are not representative of typical Republican activists in the south and parts of the midwest. The birthers, the deathers, the fundimentalists, that's your party's base right now. So yeah, you can find plenty of examples of extremists in the Democratic base, the types that called Bush a war criminal and protest WTO meetings and the like, but it's not a majority of the Democratic base like the nutjobs are not a majority of the Republican base.

    To get an accurate picture of what they base of the Republican Party looks like you need to get out of NYC and go to an Assemblies of God revival down in Tennessee or Arkansas. Talk to those people for a little while about current events. Get to know them, that is the party base. So don't get mad when someone points out the nutjobs in the party, its not like they put them there.
    And I would argue that from your position, you don't see what the real left-wing of the democratic party is like. Come to bushwick or the UES sometime, or ****, just read the comments on the NYT website. I've seen more socialist (literally socialist) parades than I have regular parades in this city.

    These are people who legitimately believe that the entire Bush administration should be hung for perpetrating 9/11 and for killing JFK Jr. They're ****ing nuts.

    Ours certainly get more press though, I'll give you that.

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    So, you do the typical right wing move and say "but they did it!" No move to condemn what is going on in your own party?
    Have you been asleep through this whole thread? Everyone coming on here has said the same thing: What this person did was terrible and wrong. It's a shame you can't understand that.
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You must not get out much because the south is largely the epicenter of the birthers and the epicenter of the deathers.
    I live in the South and I haven't seen anymore of that here than anywhere else. Nice try as pigeon holeing Southerners, though.
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And the typical crowd that Obama attracts is the type of person who was out in the streets in 04 carrying a "Bush = Hitler" sign, and who is part of the Workers World Party.

    See how easy it is to make stupid comments?
    Yep. Just as idotic no matter which side is doing it.
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Please stop. I am a hardcore liberal, and even I don't think this is Rush's fault, or that namecalling is going to do anything but make our side look like assholes. If we leave the namecalling to the other side, we will look alot better, and be more persuasive in our arguments.
    Agreed. "Rush blah blah...Palin blah blah..." just makes one look like they have no pertinent points to offer and are instead seeking refuge in hyper partisanship. And as a liberal who doesn't believe the answer to every issue is to try and hang it on Rush Limbaugh, I feel deeply embarrassed by the behaviour of such people.
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Agreed. "Rush blah blah...Palin blah blah..." just makes one look like they have no pertinent points to offer and are instead seeking refuge in hyper partisanship. And as a liberal who doesn't believe the answer to every issue is to try and hang it on Rush Limbaugh, I feel deeply embarrassed by the behaviour of such people.
    Now don't get me wrong, there are times when it is appropriate to use Rush and Palin against righties. Usually when they have just mindlessly parroted a Rush or Palin talking point. This just is not one of those times.

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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Now don't get me wrong, there are times when it is appropriate to use Rush and Palin against righties. Usually when they have just mindlessly parroted a Rush or Palin talking point. This just is not one of those times.
    Yeah, if someone comes along saying "Palin/Rush said [insert controversial statement here that the poster hasn't researched but has just taken as gospel]! It must be true!", then yeah, I'll be right in there with you discussing my (over-whelming negative) opinions on both. This though, is just getting ridiculous, to the point of being tinfoil hat-ish; "Omg, I stubbed my toe! Palin plot!"
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Again, I am not going to say that those people are anything shy of assholes, but I think we need to keep in mind the concept of personal responsibility. Just because Rush compares liberals to nazi's does not some how make those who act on it less culpable. By focusing on Rush and crew, we are making it easy for conservatives to dismiss what we are saying, because people are responsible for their own actions.


    Pelosi compared protesters to nazis. Why are you focusing on Rush's defense of these protesters as if that is where it started?
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    I'm saying we are seeing crazy on a widescale level, not the random nut.
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    Millions marched in hundreds of war protests, with almost no incidents. And that was based on factual evidence that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
    Really? so no glass broken on stores? no highways blocked? etc... really? is this how you want to come across?


    Then you use that same strawman the left came up with regarding 911 and iraq? please.




    The stuff we are seeing now is largely based on disinformation and people who can't get over the election results.
    This is dumb.


    It's the kind of stuff we used to only see in Jerry Springer shows. It's a little scary that we have so many mentally unstable people that have fallen for all these conspiracy theories.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSpD_5kgi8A&feature=related"]YouTube - Moonbats Unhinged: When Liberals Attack[/ame]


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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Now don't get me wrong, there are times when it is appropriate to use Rush and Palin against righties. Usually when they have just mindlessly parroted a Rush or Palin talking point. This just is not one of those times.



    I have yet to see anyone on the left prove a "rush talking point"?
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Pelosi compared protesters to nazis. Why are you focusing on Rush's defense of these protesters as if that is where it started?
    Hey Rev, if you read what you quote, you won't make such silly mistakes. I said the protesters where at fault themselves. I am denying it is any one but their fault. Pay attention.

    By the way, Pelosi said that there where swastika's at rallies, which in fact was true. Your need to make this about left wing politicians proves your overly partisan need to attack instead of debate.

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