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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    There's got to be a line somewhere, and I'm not saying Beck and Hannity have crossed it yet, when hyperbole turns into dangerous libel. They are definitely pushing the envelope.

    People without a college education or a basic understanding of 20th century political history are very susceptible to these images. Maybe they (RW pundits) are just trying to fire people up for the midterms.

    But what happens when one of these armed town hall folks really loses his cool. Look at some of the posters on this board--they can't see the problem with slinging an assault rifle over your shoulder and walking around in public.

    No, you won't be able to tie a shooting in AZ to Sean Hannity's nightly video montages, unless the shooter is very specific about what inspired him. But why does it have to come to that before some of these far-right folks tone it down.
    I don't disagree with alot of that, but you cannot curb political free speech because some nutjob might act like a nutjob. That is part of the cost of having free speech.

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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    How many people hang out in Haight-Ashbury versus how many people are you going to find in typical fundamentalist revival? Only a tiny percentage of the Democratic base lives in San Fransisco.

    As I wrote, there are nut jobs on the left, no doubt about it, just not nearly as many right now as there are on the right. These Republicans on here from places like the North East don't get just how extreme many Republicans are anymore in places like the south and lower midwest.
    I live in the south. If there are these massive hotbeds of fiery nutball Republicans, I haven't seen them.

    I do see idiots from time to time. But as you note, they're everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I live in the south. If there are these massive hotbeds of fiery nutball Republicans, I haven't seen them.

    I do see idiots from time to time. But as you note, they're everywhere.
    You must not get out much because the south is largely the epicenter of the birthers and the epicenter of the deathers.
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You must not get out much because the south is largely the epicenter of the birthers and the epicenter of the deathers.
    Or maybe (you know, maybe) they're tiny in number and vastly overinflated in the media.
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not going to say that Rush, Beck or Hannity are anything other than assholes. They are. They are also not at fault here.
    They are responsible for knowingly spreading lies and disinformation.

    They get paid very well to lie, and they have to know that many people will believe it and act on their propaganda.
    I'm no lawyer, but I see some degree of culpabilty in their actions.

    We have to face facts. We are seeing a whole 'nother level of crazy here.

    People were actually having tea parties tax protests ...after getting a tax cut!

    Carrying guns to town hall debates? shouting down their representative instead of discussion? the elderly on medicare saying they don't big govt involved in healthcare?

    It's a shame that the right has to continually resort to lies to get their way.

    It's even worse that so very many fall for the deceptions....

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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Or maybe (you know, maybe) they're tiny in number and vastly overinflated in the media.
    There is a Research 2000 poll from about 2 weeks ago that asked if you believe that Obama was born in the United States.

    77% of Americans said yes.

    Only 42% of Republicans said yes. Where are Republicans mostly concentrated, the South.

    They conducted another Poll a few days ago that asked the following question:

    Do you think the health care reform plan being considered by President Obama and Congress creates “death panels” which have the authority to subjectively determine whether or not a gravely ill or injured person should receive health care based on their “level of productivity in society”?

    43% of Republicans said no. 57% of Republicans said yes or they were unsure about the veracity of the claim. Where are Republicans mostly concentrated? The South.

    A full 68% of Republicans reject the scientific explanation of creation.

    Poll: Most Republicans Reject Evolution - CBS News

    A full 70% of Republicans hold favorable views of Sarah Palin. She is a perfect example of how extreme many in the Republican base have become. Having her as a running mate to appease the base would be like a Democrat having to run Bernie Sanders as their running mate just to appease the base.
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    They are responsible for knowingly spreading lies and disinformation.

    They get paid very well to lie, and they have to know that many people will believe it and act on their propaganda.
    I'm no lawyer, but I see some degree of culpabilty in their actions.

    We have to face facts. We are seeing a whole 'nother level of crazy here.

    People were actually having tea parties tax protests ...after getting a tax cut!

    Carrying guns to town hall debates? shouting down their representative instead of discussion? the elderly on medicare saying they don't big govt involved in healthcare?

    It's a shame that the right has to continually resort to lies to get their way.

    It's even worse that so very many fall for the deceptions....
    Again, I am not going to say that those people are anything shy of assholes, but I think we need to keep in mind the concept of personal responsibility. Just because Rush compares liberals to nazi's does not some how make those who act on it less culpable. By focusing on Rush and crew, we are making it easy for conservatives to dismiss what we are saying, because people are responsible for their own actions.

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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    They are responsible for knowingly spreading lies and disinformation.

    They get paid very well to lie, and they have to know that many people will believe it and act on their propaganda.
    I'm no lawyer, but I see some degree of culpabilty in their actions.

    We have to face facts. We are seeing a whole 'nother level of crazy here.

    People were actually having tea parties tax protests ...after getting a tax cut!

    Carrying guns to town hall debates? shouting down their representative instead of discussion? the elderly on medicare saying they don't big govt involved in healthcare?

    It's a shame that the right has to continually resort to lies to get their way.

    It's even worse that so very many fall for the deceptions....
    Good grief.

    If you think those things are a "whole new level of crazy," then you've been ASLEEP during the last eight years, and you haven't poked around much on this board, either. Many, many, many examples of Lefties Gone Wild Caught on Tape of exactly the same type of crap.

    Of course, you seem to think that any opposition to Leftie policy is a "lie" or a "deception," so that's not too surprising.
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    There is a Research 2000 poll from about 2 weeks ago that asked if you believe that Obama was born in the United States.

    77% of Americans said yes.

    Only 42% of Republicans said yes. Where are Republicans mostly concentrated, the South.

    They conducted another Poll a few days ago that asked the following question:

    Do you think the health care reform plan being considered by President Obama and Congress creates “death panels” which have the authority to subjectively determine whether or not a gravely ill or injured person should receive health care based on their “level of productivity in society”?

    43% of Republicans said no. 57% of Republicans said yes or they were unsure about the veracity of the claim. Where are Republicans mostly concentrated? The South.

    A full 68% of Republicans reject the scientific explanation of creation.

    Poll: Most Republicans Reject Evolution - CBS News

    A full 70% of Republicans hold favorable views of Sarah Palin. She is a perfect example of how extreme many in the Republican base have become. Having her as a running mate to appease the base would be like a Democrat having to run Bernie Sanders as their running mate just to appease the base.
    I think your characterizations and response lumpings there don't quite fit the results.

    In any case, the point stands -- I do not see these throngs of Republican firebrands gallivanting across the countryside here.
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    Re: Woman Shouts "Heil Hitler!" At Jewish Man Praising Israel's National Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I think your characterizations and response lumpings there don't quite fit the results.

    In any case, the point stands -- I do not see these throngs of Republican firebrands gallivanting across the countryside here.
    I live in the South, and I see the nuts everywhere. The funny thing is that most people in the South who are Republican, should not be in anyway. The GOP is the party of big business, yet I see dirt-poor Southerners cheering them on. Makes one think they get what they deserve when they stay poor and in the trailor.

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