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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You know, people always say this, but that hasn't happened in Amsterdam. There will always be something illegal to sell and someone illegal to sell to.
    I don't think we're communicating well.

    AFAICT, there's still $bil going to crime lords in Afghanistan and South America despite whatever Amsterdam has done.
    So, I am not sure what you think I am saying.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Also, if the military gets co-opted by the cartels to the degree that the police have been, then there is real cause for concern when it comes to interdicting the flow of drugs into the country. That's a scenario that leads to the War on Drugs becoming a shooting war with Mexico in a big hurry.
    Hadn't considered that. We've already had one incident. And a shooting war with Mexico would lead to all sort of complications, both within our military and our civilian population. If the military gets co-opted by the cartels, whose side are they really going to be on when the fighting breaks out? There's also the matter of what all the anti-war and anti-military protesters would do about active military operation in their hometowns. And just think about the number of "Americans" that fly a Mexican flag every year on May 5th...

    Hell of an ugly thing.

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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I like it; I'm hoping that the Mexican Army can be greatly weakened so that the Magonistas and the Zapatistas can coordinate a violent military strike.
    and viva LA PONCHO VILLA!! lol
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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Mexican Army takes over customs on US border


    While I'm glad that Calderon is continuing to push his war against the drug lords, it's a little disquieting to know that active duty forces are now deployed just south of the border.
    Is this the modern definition of a Mexican standoff ?
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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    What you want, however, is a small market of illegal things being sold. Far easier to control. One of the issues with the drug war is that it's literally a war on EVERY drug, save alcohol and tobacco. Even legal by prescription ones a part of it. We can't win that. Hell, we can't even contain it (see current situation in Mexico). We are literally flushing billions down the toilet while making billions for the cartels. The fact is, the biggest imported illegal drugs are pot and cocaine. Make those two legal and it changes the game. There is simply not enough demand for other drugs to sustain huge, violent cartels. You cannot exactly just turn to another drug. There's not enough demand. Once the money is gone, the cartels are gone. That's not to say crime goes away or some won't move to other illegal acts. No doubt they will. But the beast gets far smaller and easier to control.
    I used to think along similar lines a while back looking at places like Amsterdam. Problem is that that theory took a major hit in recent years with the growing prescription drug problem. Vicodin, Oxycotin (waiting for a lib to go off topic and make a Rush joke), Xanax, etc are all legal but controlled due to their detrimental effects. Amsterdam still has pretty hard laws on anything other than hash/marijuana especially cocaine.

    Supply based attacks have worked in the past (although Canibis being a single process plant drug is almost impossible to stop). See the history and demise of Quaaludes. However, our unique problem deals more with a double whammy. Our border is porous which makes the supply chain virtually unbreakable. Tight border control is a no-go due to the immigration lobby.

    With the Mexican military taking over there is a decent chance we might see a reduction in drug supply. But that is of course speculation as I have no idea how well the Mexican military will enforce this on their own people trying to cross the border.
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