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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Hasn't really been shown to work, has it?
    Works great.....if you're wanting to support the black markets!

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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Works great.....if you're wanting to support the black markets!
    I support all markets! Of course, ones that pay taxes are preferred for obvious reasons.
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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Considering the recent case down in Texas, I daresay that our own house is a little too fragile for us to be throwing stones.
    I think it's a matter of degree. The Mexican military has been co-opted, almost wholesale, by the Mexican drug syndicates. They say that the offer is silver or lead. "Join us, or die." That's hard to resist, when they have the means to hurt you and your family. That level of influence isn't felt here. YET.

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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Mexican Army takes over customs on US border


    While I'm glad that Calderon is continuing to push his war against the drug lords, it's a little disquieting to know that active duty forces are now deployed just south of the border.
    Little paranoid are we not?

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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think it's a matter of degree. The Mexican military has been co-opted, almost wholesale, by the Mexican drug syndicates. They say that the offer is silver or lead. "Join us, or die." That's hard to resist, when they have the means to hurt you and your family. That level of influence isn't felt here. YET.
    Sadly I agree. I think it is only a matter of time before we are in a similar situation, hopefully it wont happen in my lifetime.

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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Little paranoid are we not?
    How would you feel if Russia put Russian troops in Wales? Paranoid, maybe? I mean, you aren't really enemies, but it still feels...menacing?

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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Legalizing drugs would simultaneously undercut objectionable groups around the world from Afghanistan to Peru.

    The bottom would fall out of the markets. Of course we would then be financing intl pharma companies. But at least they are more susceptible to regulation and taxes.

    But the $bil if not $tril that got to violent groups around the world via drug trade is not a good thing.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    But the $bil if not $tril that got to violent groups around the world via drug trade is not a good thing.
    You know, people always say this, but that hasn't happened in Amsterdam. There will always be something illegal to sell and someone illegal to sell to.

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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You know, people always say this, but that hasn't happened in Amsterdam. There will always be something illegal to sell and someone illegal to sell to.
    What you want, however, is a small market of illegal things being sold. Far easier to control. One of the issues with the drug war is that it's literally a war on EVERY drug, save alcohol and tobacco. Even legal by prescription ones a part of it. We can't win that. Hell, we can't even contain it (see current situation in Mexico). We are literally flushing billions down the toilet while making billions for the cartels. The fact is, the biggest imported illegal drugs are pot and cocaine. Make those two legal and it changes the game. There is simply not enough demand for other drugs to sustain huge, violent cartels. You cannot exactly just turn to another drug. There's not enough demand. Once the money is gone, the cartels are gone. That's not to say crime goes away or some won't move to other illegal acts. No doubt they will. But the beast gets far smaller and easier to control.
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    Re: Mexican Army takes over customs on US border

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Little paranoid are we not?
    Hardly. If my neighbor takes to toting a gun around after he's been robbed, I quite understand his desire for toting a gun....but I still am going to play closer attention to what he's doing. If and when that gun starts sending rounds down range I do not want to be down range.

    Troops + border + mistake == war is an all too easy equation to fathom.

    Also, if the military gets co-opted by the cartels to the degree that the police have been, then there is real cause for concern when it comes to interdicting the flow of drugs into the country. That's a scenario that leads to the War on Drugs becoming a shooting war with Mexico in a big hurry.

    When Pancho Villa was tearing up the Mexican countryside in the 1910s, the US finally said enough to his occasional incursions into the US and sent a force under Pershing into Mexico to put a stop to it. I have no desire to see that bit of history repeat itself.

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