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Pelosi praised the 'disruptors' back in '06

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Pelosi praised the 'disruptors' back in '06 - Glenn Thrush - POLITICO.com
In this video making the rounds (yes, sent to the media by Republicans), Pelosi tells some anti-war protesters at an event in January 2006 that she's a "fan of disruptors." She talks back to the protesters, saying "I understand your anger." She eventually invites the anti-war folks to the front of the room to hold their protest signs.
In 2006 she was a fan of disruptors. In 2009 she thinks they are "un-American." My, my, what a difference a little taste of power makes.

We still have judgment here; that we but teach
Bloody instructions, which, being taught, return
To plague the inventor: this even-handed justice
Commends the ingredients of our poison'd chalice
To our own lips.

 
Why does it matter who's spreading it around? She said it.
 
Why does it matter who's spreading it around? She said it.
Meh...it doesn't matter, but it makes sense to get that admission out of the way up front, for the reason you just specified.

Of course the Republicans are going to hit back on Pelosi's politicking. It's Pelosi's fault for handing them such delightful ammunition in the first place.

(She should do Dear Leader a favor and allow the cut under her nose to heal! ;) )
 
At least Pelosi was being civil, which is a lot more than can be said for the same disruptors she recently spoke out about, who's only objective is acting like a total ass in order to prevent facts regarding the health care bill from being heard.
 
At least Pelosi was being civil, which is a lot more than can be said for the same disruptors she recently spoke out about, who's only objective is acting like a total ass in order to prevent facts regarding the health care bill from being heard.

Can't see as that has any relevance to the point. But nice try.
 
At least Pelosi was being civil, which is a lot more than can be said for the same disruptors she recently spoke out about, who's only objective is acting like a total ass in order to prevent facts regarding the health care bill from being heard.
So polite words about the impolite disruptors who acted like total asses for the Anti-Republicans excuse her impolitic words about impolite disruptors opposing the Anti-Republicans?

Lovely double standard that--not very persuasive, but lovely to laugh at, nonetheless.
 
So polite words about the impolite disruptors who acted like total asses for the Anti-Republicans excuse her impolitic words about impolite disruptors opposing the Anti-Republicans?
If you're going to spin my comment, at least do it so it makes sense.

Lovely double standard that--not very persuasive, but lovely to laugh at, nonetheless.
I don't see a double standard. I didn't hear her mention in the video, or in recent comments that people weren't free to voice their opinions.The point she made recently is that people who are disrupting these meetings aren't interested in hearing anyone's POV. Their main objective is to be as disruptive as possible so the opposing side doesn't get a chance to speak. While I don't agree with the particular wording she used to describe their behavior, I do agree with a lot of the Democratic leadership, including Pelosi, who are speaking out against it.

What you laugh at is no concern of mine. I happen to think the joke will eventually be on you.
 
Pelosi praised the 'disruptors' back in '06 - Glenn Thrush - POLITICO.com
In 2006 she was a fan of disruptors. In 2009 she thinks they are "un-American." My, my, what a difference a little taste of power makes.




Protesters of 2006 were protesting the war and the lies George Bush and Dick Cheney...people were dying for those lies. The Bush admin was force feeging America ANYTHING he desired..because he had a congress that was willing to turn it back on the will of the American people. "Distrupters" of 2006 were very different from the disrupters of today..in 2006 the people that were doing cared deeply for their country. In 2006 Bush had had 5 years to prove his worth and his degree of honesty and integrity...5 YEARS. Guess what?
MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHIED.

Today the disrupters only care for themselves and the shrinking shattered Republican party. Their goals are only for that...the message is clear..America fails..they win. They started their (America Fails we win)
on Jan 20th 2009.

Pelosi is right their logic and reasoning is UNAMERICAN...get over it and fix it.
 
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Today the disrupters only care for themselves and the shrinking shattered Republican party. Their goals are only for that...the message is clear..America fails..they win. They started their (America Fails we win) on Jan 20th 2009.

Your logic fails, as usual. If this many people are protesting in an effort to build up the Republican Party, then the Republican party is not shrinking but growing (you overlooked the fact that most people in America think Dear Leader's health care reform agenda sucks).

No, this is not about America failing...this is about making sure policies that are proven failures, agendas that are asinine, ideas that are idiotic, are stopped before they can do lasting harm to America. This is about doing the one thing absolutely necessary to America's long term success--Dear Leader's Downfall.

Not that liberals are ever able to grasp the possibility that Dear Leader might actually be wrong, that he might actually do damage given half a chance.:roll:
 
Your logic fails, as usual. If this many people are protesting in an effort to build up the Republican Party, then the Republican party is not shrinking but growing (you overlooked the fact that most people in America think Dear Leader's health care reform agenda sucks).

No, this is not about America failing...this is about making sure policies that are proven failures, agendas that are asinine, ideas that are idiotic, are stopped before they can do lasting harm to America. This is about doing the one thing absolutely necessary to America's long term success--Dear Leader's Downfall.

Not that liberals are ever able to grasp the possibility that Dear Leader might actually be wrong, that he might actually do damage given half a chance.:roll:

Your logic is as flawed and partisian as usual....
 
Your logic is as flawed and partisian as usual....
Of course I'm partisan. There's nothing novel about saying I'm partisan.

But, do tell, how is my logic flawed? Gallup poll after Gallup poll shows that Americans do not want the reform proposals being generated in Congress; they want reform, but they do not want this reform. Poll after poll shows that Americans do not approve of what Dear Leader has been doing on health care.

If all this is driven by the "shrinking" Republican Party, then the "shrinking" Republican Party is not shrinking but growing, because they seem to be attuned to the desires of the majority of the country. If all this is from Republicans, then the Anti-Republicans have become the anti-majority (that's "minority" in partisanspeak :mrgreen:), and it will take only the formality of next year's election to drive that point home.

So how is my logic flawed? Enquiring and highly partisan minds want to know!
 
Protesters of 2006 were protesting the war and the lies George Bush and Dick Cheney...people were dying for those lies.
Let's play by your rules then: Bush lied about Iraq....hmmm, never been proven, Obama lied about healthcare....not proven, but he has changed his tune several times about the subject over the years, people died in Iraq, well that is true, it tends to happen in war, that's why it's war and not "super happy fun time", Obama's stance on healthcare is being tried and guess what......people are dying, and it's not even something that comes close to an argument of urgency. People don't want Obamacare, and the constitution doesn't allow for it, people wanted security, and the constitution is clear about the defense of this country, hint, it's for it.
The Bush admin was force feeging America ANYTHING he desired..because he had a congress that was willing to turn it back on the will of the American people. "Distrupters" of 2006 were very different from the disrupters of today..in 2006 the people that were doing cared deeply for their country.
Take the pro-Democrat blinders off and you just might see the similarities and the ridiculous idea that people screaming about a war they didn't understand have less ground than people screaming about another entitlement program that they do not want, and that will personally effect all.
In 2006 Bush had had 5 years to prove his worth and his degree of honesty and integrity...5 YEARS. Guess what?
MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHIED.
And yet in 6 months the current WH occupant is exacerbating things.
Today the disrupters only care for themselves and the shrinking shattered Republican party. Their goals are only for that...the message is clear..America fails..they win. They started their (America Fails we win)
on Jan 20th 2009.
Who says we have to care about anyone else? And what business is it of yours to force people to care about people they will never meet? Answer: none of your business.
Pelosi is right their logic and reasoning is UNAMERICAN...get over it and fix it.
No, Pelosi is wrong, then again it isn't a surprising outcome, she's an idiot, and the worst kind of idiot at that, she doesn't know jack **** about what being American means and cannot resist shutting her noise hole about something she is out of her league on.
 
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.....yawn.......:2wave:
 
I only conceed that the op and your followup is partisian drivel.....:lol:
And I "concede" that the more things change, the more they stay the same.:doh
 
I only conceed that the op and your followup is partisian drivel.....:lol:
Sure you did, but you didn't refute it, nor did you prove your case, so therefore I will take the yawn as a concession of your inability to do so.
 
Sure you did, but you didn't refute it, nor did you prove your case, so therefore I will take the yawn as a concession of your inability to do so.

You offered no proof only a partisian opinion...just as the op's twisted logic and opinion that the motives of all protesters are one and the same.

my fictional concession only lives between your ears.
 
Protesters of 2006 were protesting the war and the lies George Bush and Dick Cheney...people were dying for those lies. The Bush admin was force feeging America ANYTHING he desired..because he had a congress that was willing to turn it back on the will of the American people. "Distrupters" of 2006 were very different from the disrupters of today..in 2006 the people that were doing cared deeply for their country. In 2006 Bush had had 5 years to prove his worth and his degree of honesty and integrity...5 YEARS. Guess what?
MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHIED.

Today the disrupters only care for themselves and the shrinking shattered Republican party. Their goals are only for that...the message is clear..America fails..they win. They started their (America Fails we win)
on Jan 20th 2009.

Pelosi is right their logic and reasoning is UNAMERICAN...get over it and fix it.

And if Pelosi had referred to their message and not their tactics as "Un-American," then you might have something.

But she didn't.

That of course, that doesn't matter to you. For you, Democrats are always right and never wrong.
 
You offered no proof only a partisian opinion...just as the op's twisted logic and opinion that the motives of all protesters are one and the same.

my fictional concession only lives between your ears.
Let's see, I stated that they were similar, one only has to look at the use of heated rhetoric, angry signs, and volume levels to figure out they were both groups of angry people, that is, if they are being open minded, honest, and actually paying attention. Also, they are different in that the war protesters were against a legally and constitutionally binding declaration of war, which was their right, even if they didn't have a leg to stand on, the current health bill protesters don't want UHC, period, they do not want the burdensome government controls loaded into the bill or the extra taxation, and they have a right to do so, but have the U.S. constitution on their side, anyone can go ahead and read that. What part did you miss?
 
Let's see, I stated that they were similar, one only has to look at the use of heated rhetoric, angry signs, and volume levels to figure out they were both groups of angry people, that is, if they are being open minded, honest, and actually paying attention. Also, they are different in that the war protesters were against a legally and constitutionally binding declaration of war, which was their right, even if they didn't have a leg to stand on, the current health bill protesters don't want UHC, period, they do not want the burdensome government controls loaded into the bill or the extra taxation, and they have a right to do so, but have the U.S. constitution on their side, anyone can go ahead and read that. What part did you miss?

Haven't you heard the Dems won?..your party is no longer even close to being the majority be as un-american as you want to be..see where it gets you.
 
Haven't you heard the Dems won?..your party is no longer even close to being the majority be as un-american as you want to be..see where it gets you.
What manner of proof is this?
 
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