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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    I've been in a union a few times and found it didn't meet my needs. I worked for a organization that started a union, and didn't feel like supporting it, but the peer pressure was intense.

    Still I politically support unions on principle. Workers have rights I'm just not sure that unions protect those rights in truth.
    Careful now,,, you're stepping on ground where you'll be accused of supporting "Lead Paint, Pirates, and Militias". That, and a nasty Independent Streak. NOT ALLOWED in Unions.

    Take care Wind.

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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Been to san diego a lot, first while serving on a fast attack (ssn 590) in the late 60's, later as a reservist for 2 weeks at a time. They never asked me to do much....
    The group we served was Sub Ron 1...You're an Elite to have Served. I'd spent a day at a time crawling around those "Boats" busting my head and knuckles making repairs,,, you'd "get underway", and be gone for months.

    I don't think I'd much care to be "under" for months.

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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    The group we served was Sub Ron 1...You're an Elite to have Served. I'd spent a day at a time crawling around those "Boats" busting my head and knuckles making repairs,,, you'd "get underway", and be gone for months.

    I don't think I'd much care to be "under" for months.
    Turns out that I didn't care for it either....ever hear of SAD? Lack of sunshine makes UtahBill a very unhappy person. My depression didn't get properly diagnosed until after being out of the Navy for about 7 years, when I was living in Idaho and we had a very bad spring that prolonged a bad winter.
    As a result of that, we moved to Arizona. In Idaho, I needed drugs, but in AZ, I did not...
    Oracle of Utah
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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Turns out that I didn't care for it either....ever hear of SAD? Lack of sunshine makes UtahBill a very unhappy person. My depression didn't get properly diagnosed until after being out of the Navy for about 7 years, when I was living in Idaho and we had a very bad spring that prolonged a bad winter.
    As a result of that, we moved to Arizona. In Idaho, I needed drugs, but in AZ, I did not...
    I can't fault you on that. It takes a "Special Mentality" to thrive under those conditions. I confess, I don't have it. I can "tolerate" it for just so long...

    I need "Sky" over me. Peace to you U/B.

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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    Careful now,,, you're stepping on ground where you'll be accused of supporting "Lead Paint, Pirates, and Militias". That, and a nasty Independent Streak. NOT ALLOWED in Unions.

    Take care Wind.
    Just to be clear, I try not to second-guess anyone's experience with unions and I certainly cherish independent thought. I hope it didn't come across like I was second-guessing your experience. Generally, I try not to make unfounded conjectures about empirical information. Sorry if it felt like I did at some point. Again sorry if this exchange left you feeling bitter towards me or my arguments.

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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimboJ View Post
    Just to be clear, I try not to second-guess anyone's experience with unions and I certainly cherish independent thought. I hope it didn't come across like I was second-guessing your experience. Generally, I try not to make unfounded conjectures about empirical information. Sorry if it felt like I did at some point. Again sorry if this exchange left you feeling bitter towards me or my arguments.
    You've not made me "feel" a damm thing Jimbo. I've despised Unions long before you came into being. I'm not "hostile" to you. You're mad because of the crap you're living through. We all do. You're "living" now, Battles I've fought before.


    Take care.
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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    You've not made me "feel" a damm thing Jimbo. I've despised Unions long before you came into being. I'm not "hostile" to you. You're mad because of the crap you're living through. We all do. You're "living" now, Battles I've fought before.


    Take care.
    Again, please don't make assumptions about me. I have gone lengths to afford you this respect, the least you can do is afford me this respect now. I hope this isn't asking too much.
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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimboJ View Post
    Again, please don't make assumptions about me. I have gone lengths to afford you this respect, the least you can do is afford me this respect. I hope this isn't asking too much.
    In the future,,,allow me the "respect" of my Enemies. You don't qualify Jimbo. The Islamic anal retetentives willling to kill themselves,,,for a sick "god", have a tendency of losing "converts".

    You'll decry my position.,,,as expected.

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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    In the future,,,allow me the "respect" of my Enemies. You don't qualify Jimbo. The Islamic anal retetentives willling to kill themselves,,,for a sick "god", have a tendency of losing "converts".

    You'll decry my position.,,,as expected.
    Sorry can't decry this position.

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    Re: How to Kill a Union,,,in 3 Easy Steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimboJ View Post
    Sorry can't decry this position.
    Unexpected, but recognized. I do tend to be a bit straight forward in my interpetations of others...I take people at face value,,,and respond to what they say. Peace to thee, and thine own.

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