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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    again, they oppose, republicans oppose, yet offer nothing as a solution. nothing. as i mentioned earlier, i'm happy to discuss legitimate reasons for opposition.
    You DO know that the Republicans arent holding up the bill(s), right?

    and btw, i will always defend my vote for obama.
    Some people -do- drink a lot of kool-aid.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Do you know the recipe for frog soup?
    LOL... no one is going to go for this... they probably aren't old enough to have heard it before.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Arrest them for disorderly conduct. And then when they don't get comply fast enough when being arrested, we taz them, bro.
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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Arrest them for disorderly conduct. And then when they don't get comply fast enough when being arrested, we taz them, bro.
    Perfect recipe for 500 irate citizens sticking that tazer up some cops ass. These people have a right to free speech and assembly... this is still a semi-free country.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No one was screaming about health care, until this POS bill was written.
    Yes, you and the other partisan screamers have been so articulate about why you oppose it...

    "the systematic dismantling of our country"... talk about going full retard.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    [quote=Crunch;1058193347]Read this carefully and think about what it says... if you were an insurance company, do you think you could stay in business if you couldn't ever enroll anyone new after this bill goes into effect?.
    Well, I read it carefully. I agree, they wouldn't stay in business under those conditions, but you also failed to post the provision in it's full context.

    The provision establishes the conditions under which existing private plans would be exempted from the requirement that they participate in the Health Insurance Exchange. Individual health insurance plans that do not meet the "grandfather" conditions would still be available for purchase, but only through the Exchange, and subject to those regulations.

    By not including the wording related to the "Health Insurance Exchange" the section you quoted could be perceived as something other than what was intended to mean. The Health Insurance Exchange creates a transparent and functional marketplace for individuals and small employers to comparison shop among private and public insurers.

    Section (c) Limitation on Individual Health Insurance Coverage

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    (1) IN GENERAL- Individual health insurance coverage that is not grandfathered health insurance coverage under subsection (a) may only be offered on or after the first day of Y1 as an Exchange-participating health benefits plan

    (2) SEPARATE, EXCEPTED COVERAGE PERMITTED- Excepted benefits (as defined in section 2791(c) of the Public Health Service Act) are not included within the definition of health insurance coverage. Nothing in paragraph (1) shall prevent the offering, other than through the Health Insurance Exchange, of excepted benefits so long as it is offered and priced separately from health insurance coverage.
    Text of H.R.3200 as Introduced in House: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

    To fully understand Section 101 all of the subsections of the entire section need to be included.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Perfect recipe for 500 irate citizens sticking that tazer up some cops ass. These people have a right to free speech and assembly... this is still a semi-free country.
    I was being a bit sarcastic. Everyone is allowed free speech and to assemble but there are RULES and LIMITATIONSfor when, where, and how you assemble and speak. If you enter a town hall meeting then start swearing, cussing, screaming and yelling then its justified that your free speech is curtailed. Free speech has limits. E.G., yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre.
    If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    LOL... no one is going to go for this... they probably aren't old enough to have heard it before.
    Oh, I figure they know the recipe, but don't think boiling their environmentalist friends is funny, that, and if they admitted to knowing the recipe, they'd have to confess that Messiah-Care is the worst idea since the Sixteenth Amendment, and they like the Sixteenth Amendment.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Yes, you and the other partisan screamers have been so articulate about why you oppose it...

    "the systematic dismantling of our country"... talk about going full retard.
    Yes. I've been perfectly clear about why I oppose it.

    It violates the Constitution.

    It won't work.

    It will cost so much the word "fortune" is meaningless.

    It will affect my life and my family negatively.

    It won't work.

    And it violated the Constitution.

    Did I mention the fact that the people promoting don't have a shred of credibility?

    Would you buy a used Clunker from a Congressman?

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Oh.

    So you're confessing that nationalization of an industry will deny people the fullest access to that industry.

    No, if you can find the honesty to apply your new found knowledge to your demand that doctors be nationalized, we can begin to teach you your errors.
    Where is the breaking news that we are about to nationalize doctors?

    Why don't you get behind breaking the physician's union (the AMA) which has advised states to limit the number of doctors trained ea year and limited the number allowed to immigrate to the U.S., thus guaranteeing high physician incomes and denying people fullest access to that industry??

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