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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    uh-huh......and how do you porpose laymen navigate their way through our judicial system?
    Oh.

    So you're confessing that nationalization of an industry will deny people the fullest access to that industry.

    No, if you can find the honesty to apply your new found knowledge to your demand that doctors be nationalized, we can begin to teach you your errors.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    Quit throwing out strawmen and state exactly how you are going to lose your private health insurance coverage. It's my understanding that the House bill allows for existing policies to be grandfathered in, so that people who currently have individual health insurance policies will not lose coverage.
    Do you know the recipe for frog soup?

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    fine.....just so we all know they are for the most part ignorant sheep who are opposed because someone convinced them obama was going to kill their grandma and take away their medicare.

    again, they oppose, republicans oppose, yet offer nothing as a solution. nothing. as i mentioned earlier, i'm happy to discuss legitimate reasons for opposition.

    and btw, i will always defend my vote for obama.
    One solid unshakeable basis for oppposing it is the fact that it's not allowed by the Constitution.

    How's that for starters?

    You're not one of those people that don't understand what the General Welfare clause is, are you?

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    please......75% of our population is misinformed. why should this be any different?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    who said anything about doctors being nationalized? some post i missed?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    i'm sorry, no, i guess i don't understand how hc reform is not allowed by the constitution. seems if that were true, all you'd have to do is challenge it in court.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm sorry, no, i guess i don't understand how hc reform is not allowed by the constitution. seems if that were true, all you'd have to do is challenge it in court.
    Our courts have been operating under a flawed basis of interpretation for quite some time now.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Do you know the recipe for frog soup?
    Unless this recipe includes a legitimate reason why you're going to lose your private health insurance I don't really care. From what I gather so far from your posts, you have offered theories based on the failures of other government programs, but nothing in particular regarding the current health care reform proposals as they pertain to your private health care plan.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    I see nothing wrong with people regardless of how informed or misinformed from not wanting something. I feel the pro-health care groups would have a much better argument if they were not trying to impose it onto everyone. HR 3200 does just that. They remove the choice from all those not wanting any part of it.

    Personally I dont care if the bill was superb I would not want it. Why? Because I do not feel it is the governments job to take care of the people and its over stepping its self. I feel its the governments job to insure all have equal opportunity and its up to us to do with that what we will. Now a reform bill that leaves the private sector to make its own choices I would be fine with.

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    Re: What'll We Do About the Town Hall Screamers? Part 2: The More Things Change...:

    Quote Originally Posted by tumbleweed View Post
    Why are you going to lose your private health care insurance? How are the proposals that have been made so far going to affect it?
    Read this carefully and think about what it says... if you were an insurance company, do you think you could stay in business if you couldn't ever enroll anyone new after this bill goes into effect?

    1 SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT
    2 COVERAGE.
    3 (a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV
    4 ERAGE DEFINED.—Subject to the succeeding provisions of
    5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov
    6 erage under this division, the term ‘‘grandfathered health
    7 insurance coverage’’ means individual health insurance
    8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
    9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:
    10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.—
    11 (A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in
    12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
    13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
    14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef
    15 fective date of coverage is on or after the first
    16 day of Y1.
    How would your company do if you could never change a persons coverage, or what you charge after the day before this bill goes into effect?

    21 (2) LIMITATION ON CHANGES IN TERMS OR
    22 CONDITIONS.—Subject to paragraph (3) and except
    23 as required by law, the issuer does not change any
    24 of its terms or conditions, including benefits and
    25 cost-sharing, from those in effect as of the day be
    26 fore the first day of Y1.

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