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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I don't agree. I do not wear a conservative label because I don't want to be identified with the rabid self proclaimed "conservatives" who are nothing more than neocon or Republican lap dogs.

    I lean left or right depending on the issue which is why I wear moderate, but make no mistake, I am a social conservative for the most part.
    I don't consider myself to be a Republican lap dog. I call myself a Conservative and am registered Republican, because Conservatism and the Republican party best represents my belief is what is right and what is wrong. It has nothing to do with Conservatives, or Republicans always doing the right thing. Afterall, we are talking about politicians.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Show where it says Congress, or the POTUS can have a referendum on anything... here's the text, Artical I, section 8:



    XII amendment:



    See how that works?

    Ummm.....this is the Twelfth Amendment:

    Amendment 12 - Choosing the President, Vice-President. Ratified 6/15/1804. Note History The Electoral College

    The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

    The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

    The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

    The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
    You're quoting the Tenth.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It's not about getting nasty -- but when someone says something like her 'dismantling of the country' statement -- I want to know what she means. The same questions asked by MSNBC (and only them so far) came to mind. WTF are you talking about, lady?
    What she means, is the obvious power grab by the Libbos. If they control everything, then they can force to submit to their will. It's the only strategy they have left, since the country has rejected Liberalism for the past 40 odd years. They can't persuade people to accept Liberalism, so they're going to force people to accept Liberalism.

    Anyone want to start a pool on which industry will the next to be nationalized? I say the trucking industry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Can I be any more clear about what I'm saying?
    No.

    You can't be any more wrong, either.

    the Constitution does not permit federal health care.

    You will notice that a similar acknowledgement was made by Thomas Jefferson about federal spending for public education in his second Inaugural, and he therefore petitioned Congress to write an Amendment permitting federal funding for public schools.

    Congress agreed federal spending on public education was not allowed, Congress did not pass an amendment for same, and hence federal funding of education is also still unconstitutional.

    That the courts have refused to correctly interpret this doesn't mean federal spending for public education has become constitutional, it means the republic has become corrupt.

    Federalized health care is another symptom of the corruption of our nation.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Read the Thirteenth Amendment, please.
    My bad... the 14th gave teeth to the 13th as it gave the slaves rights to citizenship and all of the rights that go with it.

    The point of the post that you are responding to was that slavery was legal and constitutional until an amendment changed the constitution.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What she means, is the obvious power grab by the Libbos. If they control everything, then they can force to submit to their will. It's the only strategy they have left, since the country has rejected Liberalism for the past 40 odd years. They can't persuade people to accept Liberalism, so they're going to force people to accept Liberalism.

    Anyone want to start a pool on which industry will the next to be nationalized? I say the trucking industry.
    By 'power grab', do you mean the democratic national elections? Because, if I'm not mistaken, they happen every two years.

    You and vicchio with your silly conspiracy theories. You realize this reads like a bad James Bond plot. "Submit to their will"? Invasion of the Pinko Body Snatchers??



    And, just for laughs...

    Pray tell, which industry has been permanently nationalized since Obama's been in office?

    I mean, when you say 'next industry', I'd love to know which ones you think have already been taken over by the government.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    By 'power grab', do you mean the democratic national elections? Because, if I'm not mistaken, they happen every two years.

    You and vicchio with your silly conspiracy theories. You realize this reads like a bad James Bond plot. "Submit to their will"? Invasion of the Pinko Body Snatchers??

    When I say, "power grab", I mean the socialization of private industries.


    Pray tell, which industry has been permanently nationalized since Obama's been in office?

    I mean, when you say 'next industry', I'd love to know which ones you think have already been taken over by the government.

    There's not a car czar? A pay czar? Yeah, it's a power grab, all right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When I say, "power grab", I mean the socialization of private industries.
    Can you name one private industry that was nationalized? (hint...the catchword is in the question)



    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's not a car czar? A pay czar? Yeah, it's a power grab, all right.
    Ok, I guess we can just ignore your buddy Bush's czarz right? And I guess we can also ignore that some of these "czars" have dual roles, and have been confirmed right? And then can we also ignore that the "czars" have been in our system now for decades?

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    My bad... the 14th gave teeth to the 13th as it gave the slaves rights to citizenship and all of the rights that go with it.

    The point of the post that you are responding to was that slavery was legal and constitutional until an amendment changed the constitution.
    I know.

    I once had a discussion with someone who wanted to repeal the 13th Amendment, and who complained loudly that it violated a man's right to his own wages....a good friend of mine, but I let him put out enough rope before I pointed out that I was sure he meant the 16th Amendment. He was embarassed.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    By 'power grab', do you mean the democratic national elections? Because, if I'm not mistaken, they happen every two years.

    You and vicchio with your silly conspiracy theories. You realize this reads like a bad James Bond plot. "Submit to their will"? Invasion of the Pinko Body Snatchers??



    And, just for laughs...

    Pray tell, which industry has been permanently nationalized since Obama's been in office?

    I mean, when you say 'next industry', I'd love to know which ones you think have already been taken over by the government.

    Which industries that the Messiah has nationalized has he released?

    Answer: None.

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