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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No it's not. Your's is. Your completely misinterpreting the Constituion.
    Scarecrow is right on target. We have the right of redress and petition not referendum. There are states that have referendum for certain things are that varies by state. There is no formal national referendum.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    We have become a nation of idiots.
    Goes without saying.

    Only way your Messiah got elected.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Scarecrow is right on target. We have the right of redress and petition not referendum. There are states that have referendum for certain things are that varies by state. There is no formal national referendum.
    And, the Constituion outlaws a national referendum. Right? Therefore, if Congress suggested a national referendum, it would be illegal?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, the Constituion outlaws a national referendum. Right? Therefore, if Congress suggested a national referendum, it would be illegal?
    It would be deemed unconstitutional.

    Read Article 1 Section 8 carefully. It doesn't allow Congress to enact a national referendum.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, the Constituion outlaws a national referendum. Right? Therefore, if Congress suggested a national referendum, it would be illegal?
    That is not what I said and you know it. IF there is no provision for a national referendum in the Constitution and there is no prohibitation of a referendum then we can have one. REMEMBER IF IF there is no provision for a national health insurance financing in the Constitution BUT IF THERE IS NOT prohitting of it then that is legal and actually Constitutional to have a national health plan.

    So since we apparently agree that the Constitution does not prohibit a referendum and does not prohibit national health plans we can have both even id we may not like one, he other or neither of tjose things.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It would be deemed unconstitutional.

    Read Article 1 Section 8 carefully. It doesn't allow Congress to enact a national referendum.
    Gee, that's not what it says.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    That is not what I said and you know it. I do not recall any provision for a national referendum in the Constitution just as there is no provision for a national health insurance financing in the Constitution. Yet I did state in a post that not everything that is legal and actually Constitutional is in the Constitution.

    So since we apparently agree that the Constitution does not prohibit a referendum and does not prohibit national health plans we can have both even id we may not like one, he other or neither of tjose things.
    It's what Scarecrow said and you said he's right on target.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It would be deemed unconstitutional.

    Read Article 1 Section 8 carefully. It doesn't allow Congress to enact a national referendum.
    thanks crow we all who are discussing this need to read that section. And we need to interpret unless it is very specific.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    That is not what I said and you know it. IF there is no provision for a national referendum in the Constitution and there is no prohibitation of a referendum then we can have one.
    Damn that pesky Tenth Amendment.

    No, we can't have one until the Constitution is amended.


    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    REMEMBER IF IF there is no provision for a national health insurance financing in the Constitution BUT IF THERE IS NOT prohitting of it then that is legal and actually Constitutional to have a national health plan.
    Damn that pesky Tenth Amendment.

    No, we can't do that legally until the Constitution is amended.


    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    So since we apparently agree that the Constitution does not prohibit a referendum and does not prohibit national health plans we can have both even id we may not like one, he other or neither of tjose things.
    Okay, you can apparently agree with the guy that's wrong if you want. But I've read the Bill of Rights.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's what Scarecrow said and you said he's right on target.
    scarcrow found something while you and I were arguing... we need to read it.
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