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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    This health care debate has made me more libertarian in my beliefs than anything else in my entire life. Its not because I think that the people in our government are all evil and bent upon establishing a totalitarian state. It's because I can't stand hypocrites and I would rather my personal tax dollars go to buying crack for whores than to go to some stupid hypocrite like her.
    I absolutely agree with you. It is also a reason why we can never have direct democracy; people are just too ignorant, ill-informed, and downright moronic.
    Democracy is great and all, but it does have it's downside and this is one of them.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    This health care debate has made me more libertarian in my beliefs than anything else in my entire life. Its not because I think that the people in our government are all evil and bent upon establishing a totalitarian state. It's because I can't stand hypocrites and I would rather my personal tax dollars go to buying crack for whores than to go to some stupid hypocrite like her.
    We cannot say that she is a hypocrit per se since we do not have any other words from her except what she read at Spector and her TV appearances. I think that she is a nice lady who that that she knew something and got fired up by someone or something. It could be that her husband and her are right on the fringe of making enough money to be taxed more on the part over the treshold. Her husband may be complaining about taxes. We don't know.

    I missed her Fox news appearance but I am sure that Saun Vannity made out as if she was the logic of Socrates and the eloqence of Horatio !! Of course Vannity speaks from the toilet so everything is up for him.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    I did not watch the CNN bit, but did watch Hardball. Lawrence O'Donnell made some very good points, that in summary this woman is just grossly uneducated and ill informed. I have no doubt that this woman is probably even unaware of what Medicare is.
    And therefore, isn't entitled to an opinion? I really hope Libbos purblically push that notion.

    There was a time when slavery was legal and considered constitutional. Why, even the SCOTUS said that blacks weren't leagal citizens. It just goes to show, that something isn't neccessarily constitutional, or even right, just because a politician, or a SC justice says so.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    I absolutely agree with you. It is also a reason why we can never have direct democracy; people are just too ignorant, ill-informed, and downright moronic.
    Democracy is great and all, but it does have it's downside and this is one of them.
    Too bad you live in America. Huh?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Let us discuss what Nice Lady Katie read to The Senator Mr. Spector: "This is about the systematic dismantling of this country…you have awakened a sleeping giant," a woman named Katy Abram said to Specter, reading from a prepared statement. "
    Oh. I see. It's a sin for a person to speak from notes.

    But relying almost entirely on teleprompter puppeteers is acceptable if your a Messiah.

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Lady Katie read this statement and she was emotional and nice about it. She said that everyone in the room agrred with her. Now Katie Abram was on HARDBALL with the last hour and 1/2 and she was nicely asked about what she meant by this statement that she read and she could not explain herself.

    So we the great forumites of DP can now speculate as to what she meant.
    We can has that she meant this or that or this and that, or maybe that and this.
    You can.

    I'm not a mind reader, just God.

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I think that she may actually believe that the government is making economic policies that she does not think it should.
    That's a novel idea.

    Wonder where she got that, the Constitution, hmmmmm...?

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    The problem is that I wonder if she really knows why. Now I am not saying that she is any more un-informed than anyone else but she did go to the townhall and read a staement that accused Sen Spector of "systematic dismantling of this country" and if she the Nice Lady says something like that they need to be ready willing and able to al least try to explain it.
    By your own admission you don't know what the word "unconstitutional" means, yet you want to condemn a woman for failing to explain her meaning?

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    That is the flip side of free speech. It may not be a requirement of free speech but it sure as heck would go a long way to sustain your credibility.
    Since when have Messiah zealots been concerned about credibility? Is this some standard they only apply to Americans and not themselves?

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I do not expect Katie Abram to expound like a talking head but a hint of what and why you are saying what you are would be nice.
    Some people, like Katie and the Messiah, don't think well on their feet. So what? Katie's heart is in the right place, the Messiah doesn't have one.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    However, it does say that it's a, "Government of the people, by the people and for the people". IMO, that implies public referenda.
    Well, your opinion is wrong.

    The people have the right to confront their oppressors....oops, their Congressthings, and petition them for redress. They do not have any legal mechanism for national referenda. It's not in the Constitution, which shapes a republic, not a democracy.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    No not everything was spelled out in the Constitution. It cannot be and should not be.
    Yes, don't skip over the part where I educated you on the word "amendment". Do some research and learn about it.

    Other than that, the Constitution limited what the Congress can do, and the Congress is not currently allowed to steal the national health care system.

    Welcome to the place where words have real meaning, not your meaning.


    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    The founding fathers also did not forbid the government from financing health care did they!!!
    Yes, they did. They said that since the Constitution doesn't specifically authorize the federal government to regulate health care, that task devolves upon the individual states.

    When you go to your homeroom tomorrow, ask your teacher about the Tenth Amendment, okay? You seemed to have missed that one, as well as the others.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Well, your opinion is wrong.

    The people have the right to confront their oppressors....oops, their Congressthings, and petition them for redress. They do not have any legal mechanism for national referenda. It's not in the Constitution, which shapes a republic, not a democracy.
    No it's not. Your's is. Your completely misinterpreting the Constituion.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And therefore, isn't entitled to an opinion? I really hope Libbos purblically push that notion.

    There was a time when slavery was legal and considered constitutional. Why, even the SCOTUS said that blacks weren't leagal citizens. It just goes to show, that something isn't neccessarily constitutional, or even right, just because a politician, or a SC justice says so.
    I have not heard anyone say that Lady Katie is not entitled to an opinion. The point is this, if you want to read a statement that accuses and Senator, a President, a government of dismantling the constitution and do it where the natiional media will be maybe you should learn or at least memorize a few facts.

    She did admit that she hardly ever watched the news and was not interested in "history" . Ok there are a lot of people like that but learn a few things before you accuse someone of doing something wrong.

    If she never had gome to a baseball game never watched baseball, and never played baseball or siftball should she stand up in in public forum and expound profusely about baseball ?? I hardly think so.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No it's not. Your's is. Your completely misinterpreting the Constituion.
    Oh.

    If that's the case, I'll go to Washington and eat it.

    All you have to do is cite the clause in the Constitution authorizing national referenda, ie, citizens voting directly on national matters bypassing the Congress.

    Good luck with that.

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