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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Can you name one private industry that was nationalized? (hint...the catchword is in the question)
    Auto industry, banks, and now the medical industry. It ain't rocket science. How many companies does the government own interest in, now?





    Ok, I guess we can just ignore your buddy Bush's czarz right? And I guess we can also ignore that some of these "czars" have dual roles, and have been confirmed right? And then can we also ignore that the "czars" have been in our system now for decades?
    I didn't agree with Bush doing and I damn sure disagree with PBO having 30 plus czars, who only answer to the president. Do agree that one person, answerable only to the president should tell coporations how much they can pay their people? Where's that going to end?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Can you name one private industry that was nationalized? (hint...the catchword is in the question)





    Ok, I guess we can just ignore your buddy Bush's czarz right? And I guess we can also ignore that some of these "czars" have dual roles, and have been confirmed right? And then can we also ignore that the "czars" have been in our system now for decades?
    So, you're arguing that since you agree that Bush did something bad, (as did Clinton, as did the Bush before, as did Reagan) that it's just dandy that your Messiah does even more of the unconstitutional same?

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Auto industry, banks, and now the medical industry. It ain't rocket science. How many companies does the government own interest in, now?
    Not rocket science, it's called having a basic understand of business practices and economics.

    Owning an interest in, propping up, managing a corporate bankruptcy is not nationalization or socialism. It's big government sustaining major industries through a recession in attempt to avoid total collapse. I think it's important that you understand the difference.

    The formula is simple -- when 1 million or more Americans would be laid off as a direct result of a large company or group of companies going under, the government will intervene in a (hopefully) smart and pragmatic way to prevent the massive and devastating poverty and crime we saw during the Great Depression.

    You want to debate discuss the approach taken by both the Bush and Obama administration. Fine. But don't embarrass yourself by calling it Nationalization or Socialism.


    I didn't agree with Bush doing and I damn sure disagree with PBO having 30 plus czars, who only answer to the president. Do agree that one person, answerable only to the president should tell coporations how much they can pay their people? Where's that going to end?
    If I'm reading you correctly -- companies can pay their execs whatever they want as soon as they pay back government loans and get back on their feet. That's how it should work -- but the corps have found loopholes and continue to pay big salaries.

    I do not like the phrase 'to big to fail'. But, if GM went under and laid off its entire factory work force, stopped paying its suppliers who then lay off their work force, these unemployed people stop paying their bills, stop buying good and services, and entire local economy goes into collapse.

    The situation with AIG is bit more complicated.

    The whole situation stinks. Having to bail out CEO's with Ivy League MBA's -- the best and the brightest. Bull****. The greedy and arrogant. But the ripple effect of depression with poverty, homelessness, and crime is worth avoiding. IMO.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    I did not watch the CNN bit, but did watch Hardball. Lawrence O'Donnell made some very good points, that in summary this woman is just grossly uneducated and ill informed. I have no doubt that this woman is probably even unaware of what Medicare is.
    She is a Nice Lady! She is propbably a bit ignorant but we do not know nor does it matter what her education level is. The bottom line is that Lady Katie appears to be Nice Lady !!!

    15 minutes = up!!
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Damn that pesky Tenth Amendment.

    No, we can't have one until the Constitution is amended.




    Damn that pesky Tenth Amendment.

    No, we can't do that legally until the Constitution is amended.




    Okay, you can apparently agree with the guy that's wrong if you want. But I've read the Bill of Rights.
    How does the Bill of Rights prohibit the financing of national health care. Remeber this bill involves the financing of national health care not that Senator Kennedy will be performing brain tumor operations.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Yes, I can play the game, because I can read the Tenth Amendment.

    You can't read the Tenth Amendment, so you're losing the game.
    how could I possibly be losing when I am right and I have the power and the glory of the Constitution behind me!!! LOL
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You're not an independent, so why the phoney label?
    Who are you that thinks he has the cerebral powers to even think about challenging who I am on the political spectrum. Why don’t you stick with the topic at hand instead of throwing fecal matter into the fan because guess where your projectiles will go. You got it right back in your face.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    You can make fallacious claims about me being wrong for as long as a wild dog howls at the moon but you did not present one iota of facts to even make a crack in my superior logic.
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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Not rocket science, it's called having a basic understand of business practices and economics.

    Owning an interest in, propping up, managing a corporate bankruptcy is not nationalization or socialism. It's big government sustaining major industries through a recession in attempt to avoid total collapse. I think it's important that you understand the difference.
    Government owning controlling interest in and having the last say in the daily operations of a company is national socialism. Hate to break it to you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Angry Man Tells Specter: God Will Judge You

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Government owning controlling interest in and having the last say in the daily operations of a company is national socialism. Hate to break it to you.
    Break it anyway you want, pal.

    You don't know what you're talking about. What drive people with less than a basic understanding of politics and economics to these boards?

    It's a mystery.

    Nice job ignoring the rest of the post. TMI? or TMF?

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