This is the guy that those union thugs beat the crap out of? Really? this is your problem with this situation, not the racist union thugs?
They should be dragged out of there tied to the back of some citizens car or strung up in front of town hall to let the unions know that the citixzens will not be intimidated. These thugs are a bunch of fat bastards that have no business at these town halls. They are not there to give input but to intimidate.
And while the liberals and democrats are calling us "mob" and "kkk" and "racists", it turns out thier goons are everything they are accusing us of being....
Matthew 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
That usually happens when law suits are involved.Now he supposedly has to speak through his lawyer.
I don't really buy into the whole hate crime legislation but knowing that liberals typically do, I find it a little telling of their hypocritical nature that they aren't all over the "hate crime" aspect of this situation.No hate crime. Besides aren't conservatives against the concept of hate crimes?
If a lawyer is involved, it stands to reason that there is some legal issue or lawsuit at play here. I am not surprised at all that he speaks through his lawyer where this is concerned.Law suits for what? The video looks like he initiated the confrontation
Do not deign to tell me what I do and do not understand. If I don't understand something, I will let you know and ask for clarification. Until then, if I comment on a topic without such a request for clarification, then you may assume I have at least a rudimentary knowledge of the topic being discussed.Well then you obviously don't understand what a hate crime is.
Not always true. Here in California, if the N word is tossed out in the commission of a crime, a hate crime charge is almost always attached to it or it at least becomes an aggravation to the original charge.Gladney would have to have been specifically targeted because of his race, you would have to prove intent.
So it's unclear. If it were unclear that a democrat supporter possibly maybe got beat up and put in a wheel chair by someone who called him the n-word who happened to be a republican supporter, Sharpton would be all over it with his bullhorn and we'd never get the real story because of all the accusations flying.This is unclear considering Gladney looked like he was going to beat up on another black guy at the beginning of the video
We don't see that here. We see a smear job and a commitment to devaluing the violence perpetrated here because of the political charge behind the incident. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Which is a legal issue. My point stands.Or something akin to ambulance chasing which conservatives despise.
I never called it, definitively, a hate crime. But let's do clarify things ad nauseum for your sake. We'll just refer to it as the "alleged" hate crime which is what it now is since it has been tossed out there.You stating this to be a hate crime when it doesn't even fit the bill doesn't show a very clear understanding of what a hate crime is
So then show me what the law is in Missouri when it comes to hate crimes if you wish to diminish my point.It once again depends on who uses the word and what the motive is. Also this took place in St Louis, different laws out in Missouri.
In summation, put into a wheelchair from this "alleged" hate crime...my point stands.Put in a wheelchair? The guy walked away from the incident fine on the video then the next day shows up in a wheelchair.
I have heard of such. Before I prosecute the man for being a phony, I will wait for more facts to roll in, however.You never heard of anyone making injuries out to be more than they are.
Yes, I remember the girl with mental problems. I don't see the relevance to this issue.Remember Ashley Todd the McCain worker who carved a backwards B in her face to try to attack the Obama campaign.
Yes, a smear job.A smear job?
It's one video and there is a lot of motion and commotion in it. I will wait for more facts to come in.The video doesn't fit his dramatization of the events.
Oh this thread is quite telling that there is a smear job being attempted.There is no smear job,
You're right. There is an "alleged" hate crime. A court will decide if there was an actual hate crime or not. You, however, won't be making that final determination.no hate crime.
Maybe not in this video...The guy tripped and got back up the video doesn't show the beating the guy claims.
I dunno. Ask him.Why doesn't he show everyone his injuries?
So, let me get this straight, only the insured folks can protest a bill that will obviously be detrimental to health care in this country and the uninsured have to put the blinders on and do as they're told? Is that it?