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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Then take it some where else because that was never the intention of the thread and you know it. If you want to discuss then start a thread.
    So try responding to the rest of my post pointing out why your entire argument is based on an idiotic premise.
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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Sorry but this story is one of the "funniest" I have yet heard out there.

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    Come on.....you just cant make boneheads up like this.

    And now there is of course an update..


    So either he has insurance and tried to commit fraud, or he has not insurance and is a hypocrite to his own cause... wonder which in the end will be the truth


    This is the guy that those union thugs beat the crap out of? Really? this is your problem with this situation, not the racist union thugs?



    They should be dragged out of there tied to the back of some citizens car or strung up in front of town hall to let the unions know that the citixzens will not be intimidated. These thugs are a bunch of fat bastards that have no business at these town halls. They are not there to give input but to intimidate.

    And while the liberals and democrats are calling us "mob" and "kkk" and "racists", it turns out thier goons are everything they are accusing us of being....
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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is the guy that those union thugs beat the crap out of? Really? this is your problem with this situation, not the racist union thugs?



    They should be dragged out of there tied to the back of some citizens car or strung up in front of town hall to let the unions know that the citixzens will not be intimidated. These thugs are a bunch of fat bastards that have no business at these town halls. They are not there to give input but to intimidate.

    And while the liberals and democrats are calling us "mob" and "kkk" and "racists", it turns out thier goons are everything they are accusing us of being....
    Note to self: Concealed carry permits are a good thing to have at Democratic town hall meetings.

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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I've got to say, I wouldn't have thought it would be someone like you posting this story here. I would have thought that you would have preferred to bury this story.

    For those who don't know what I'm talking about, here's what happened.

    Black guy is at a protest against the Obama health care proposal. A bunch of white union thugs supporting Obama's proposal come over, get into an argument with him, and then beat him so bad that he has to get put in a wheelchair. Oh, and did I mention that they called him a nigger while they were doing this?

    See, where I come from, that's called a hate crime. But I guess PeteEU is completely okay with it.

    For the video of the aftermath:

    YouTube - Obama's SEIU Thugs Attack a Black Conservative Outside Russ Carnahan Town Hall. [RAW VIDEO]
    I've watched the full video and it doesn't play out the way Gladney says it did. First off his fight was between him and a black SIEU member. It was a black guy that called him the N-word. It was the black SIEU member who was on the ground at the start of the video and Gladney was standing over him. The SIEU member tried to get between Gladney and his fellow member who was on the ground and they both ended up falling over. Gladney looked fine at the end of the video. Now he supposedly has to speak through his lawyer. No hate crime. Besides aren't conservatives against the concept of hate crimes?

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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    I've watched the full video and it doesn't play out the way Gladney says it did. First off his fight was between him and a black SIEU member. It was a black guy that called him the N-word. It was the black SIEU member who was on the ground at the start of the video and Gladney was standing over him. The SIEU member tried to get between Gladney and his fellow member who was on the ground and they both ended up falling over. Gladney looked fine at the end of the video.
    I would default to the doctor's opinions before making any statement about how fine he is.

    Now he supposedly has to speak through his lawyer.
    That usually happens when law suits are involved.

    No hate crime. Besides aren't conservatives against the concept of hate crimes?
    I don't really buy into the whole hate crime legislation but knowing that liberals typically do, I find it a little telling of their hypocritical nature that they aren't all over the "hate crime" aspect of this situation.

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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I would default to the doctor's opinions before making any statement about how fine he is.
    Clearly you can see in the video he trips and then gets back up perfectly fine. Sounds like another Ashley Todd in the making.



    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That usually happens when law suits are involved.
    Law suits for what? The video looks like he initiated the confrontation

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't really buy into the whole hate crime legislation but knowing that liberals typically do, I find it a little telling of their hypocritical nature that they aren't all over the "hate crime" aspect of this situation.
    Well then you obviously don't understand what a hate crime is. Gladney would have to have been specifically targeted because of his race, you would have to prove intent. This is unclear considering Gladney looked like he was going to beat up on another black guy at the beginning of the video

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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Clearly you can see in the video he trips and then gets back up perfectly fine. Sounds like another Ashley Todd in the making.
    I would default to the doctor's opinions when determining how "fine" he really is.


    Law suits for what? The video looks like he initiated the confrontation
    If a lawyer is involved, it stands to reason that there is some legal issue or lawsuit at play here. I am not surprised at all that he speaks through his lawyer where this is concerned.

    Well then you obviously don't understand what a hate crime is.
    Do not deign to tell me what I do and do not understand. If I don't understand something, I will let you know and ask for clarification. Until then, if I comment on a topic without such a request for clarification, then you may assume I have at least a rudimentary knowledge of the topic being discussed.

    Gladney would have to have been specifically targeted because of his race, you would have to prove intent.
    Not always true. Here in California, if the N word is tossed out in the commission of a crime, a hate crime charge is almost always attached to it or it at least becomes an aggravation to the original charge.

    This is unclear considering Gladney looked like he was going to beat up on another black guy at the beginning of the video
    So it's unclear. If it were unclear that a democrat supporter possibly maybe got beat up and put in a wheel chair by someone who called him the n-word who happened to be a republican supporter, Sharpton would be all over it with his bullhorn and we'd never get the real story because of all the accusations flying.

    We don't see that here. We see a smear job and a commitment to devaluing the violence perpetrated here because of the political charge behind the incident. Hypocrisy at its finest.

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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I would default to the doctor's opinions when determining how "fine" he really is.
    I would if there was a doctor to default to.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    If a lawyer is involved, it stands to reason that there is some legal issue or lawsuit at play here. I am not surprised at all that he speaks through his lawyer where this is concerned.
    Or something akin to ambulance chasing which conservatives despise.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Do not deign to tell me what I do and do not understand. If I don't understand something, I will let you know and ask for clarification. Until then, if I comment on a topic without such a request for clarification, then you may assume I have at least a rudimentary knowledge of the topic being discussed.
    You stating this to be a hate crime when it doesn't even fit the bill doesn't show a very clear understanding of what a hate crime is

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Not always true. Here in California, if the N word is tossed out in the commission of a crime, a hate crime charge is almost always attached to it or it at least becomes an aggravation to the original charge.
    It once again depends on who uses the word and what the motive is. Also this took place in St Louis, different laws out in Missouri.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    So it's unclear. If it were unclear that a democrat supporter possibly maybe got beat up and put in a wheel chair by someone who called him the n-word who happened to be a republican supporter, Sharpton would be all over it with his bullhorn and we'd never get the real story because of all the accusations flying.
    Put in a wheelchair? The guy walked away from the incident fine on the video then the next day shows up in a wheelchair. You never heard of anyone making injuries out to be more than they are. Remember Ashley Todd the McCain worker who carved a backwards B in her face to try to attack the Obama campaign. All the while conservatives flocked to her until they found out she was a liar. Nice comparison but not accurate.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    We don't see that here. We see a smear job and a commitment to devaluing the violence perpetrated here because of the political charge behind the incident. Hypocrisy at its finest.
    A smear job? The video doesn't fit his dramatization of the events. There is no smear job, no hate crime. The guy tripped and got back up the video doesn't show the beating the guy claims. Why doesn't he show everyone his injuries?

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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    I would if there was a doctor to default to.
    If he's stuck in a wheelchair, there's most likely a doctor somewhere in the picture.

    Or something akin to ambulance chasing which conservatives despise.
    Which is a legal issue. My point stands.

    You stating this to be a hate crime when it doesn't even fit the bill doesn't show a very clear understanding of what a hate crime is
    I never called it, definitively, a hate crime. But let's do clarify things ad nauseum for your sake. We'll just refer to it as the "alleged" hate crime which is what it now is since it has been tossed out there.

    It once again depends on who uses the word and what the motive is. Also this took place in St Louis, different laws out in Missouri.
    So then show me what the law is in Missouri when it comes to hate crimes if you wish to diminish my point.

    Put in a wheelchair? The guy walked away from the incident fine on the video then the next day shows up in a wheelchair.
    In summation, put into a wheelchair from this "alleged" hate crime...my point stands.

    You never heard of anyone making injuries out to be more than they are.
    I have heard of such. Before I prosecute the man for being a phony, I will wait for more facts to roll in, however.

    Remember Ashley Todd the McCain worker who carved a backwards B in her face to try to attack the Obama campaign.
    Yes, I remember the girl with mental problems. I don't see the relevance to this issue.

    A smear job?
    Yes, a smear job.

    The video doesn't fit his dramatization of the events.
    It's one video and there is a lot of motion and commotion in it. I will wait for more facts to come in.

    There is no smear job,
    Oh this thread is quite telling that there is a smear job being attempted.

    no hate crime.
    You're right. There is an "alleged" hate crime. A court will decide if there was an actual hate crime or not. You, however, won't be making that final determination.

    The guy tripped and got back up the video doesn't show the beating the guy claims.
    Maybe not in this video...

    Why doesn't he show everyone his injuries?
    I dunno. Ask him.

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    Re: Gladney The Uninsured Activist

    So, let me get this straight, only the insured folks can protest a bill that will obviously be detrimental to health care in this country and the uninsured have to put the blinders on and do as they're told? Is that it?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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