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Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republican O

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Exactly. Thank you for acknowledging the weakness of your position: no evidence.

For the last time....I said HUNCH, not PROOF.
(hunches can be right or wrong, but not weak)
Come on Celtic.........you can do better than that! (can't you?):popcorn2:
 
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For the last time....I said HUNCH, not PROOF.
I'm not interested in your hunches or anybody else's. You make an accusation against someone, basic manners says you have more than a hunch to put behind it.

You've admitted you have no proof. Go get some so we can debate the merits and demerits of your position. You made the charge, so it's on you to go get the evidence.
 
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I'm not interested in your hunches or anybody else's. You make an accusation against someone, basic manners says you have more than a hunch to put behind it.

You've admitted you have no proof. Go get some so we can debate the merits and demerits of your position. You made the charge, so it's on you to go get the evidence.

Your anger is very unbecoming & I'm embarrassed for you.
As the HAL computer says (in Stanley Kubrick's 2001-A Space Odyssey)..."This conversation can have no further purpose.":2wave:
 
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Hunches are not evidence. He can have hunches, but in presenting a case, either in a courtroom or as part of a debate, hunches are properly dismissed as speculation of the lowest quality.

We are not in a court room. There is plenty of evidence to support a hunch.
 
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We are not in a court room. There is plenty of evidence to support a hunch.
According to Devil505, there is none. Which makes this thread more suitable for the tinfoil hat arena.
 
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According to Devil505, there is none. Which makes this thread more suitable for the tinfoil hat arena.


Making things even worse for yourself here.
The old: If I'm losing a debate....let's try to get it closed or moved.
(a variation on the "I'm taking my bat & going home!" threat from 4th grade):devil:
 
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Making things even worse for yourself here.
The old: If I'm losing a debate....let's try to get it closed or moved.
(a variation on the "I'm taking my bat & going home!" threat from 4th grade)

No, I believe you were the one who first attempted to withdraw from this exchange with your "HAL" statement, when he made the very valid point that "hunches" aren't enough to support a premise.
 
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According to Devil505, there is none. Which makes this thread more suitable for the tinfoil hat arena.

How deeply was the person inquestion imvolved in the R party?
 
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How deeply was the person inquestion imvolved in the R party?
At the time of the town hall meeting? There is no evidence to suggest she was involved at all.

Up until early 2008, she was reasonably active in the local Republican Party. According to her LinkedIn profile, her activities with the local Republican Party stopped early 2008. There is no evidence of current activities.
 
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Anyone remember the 2004 Democratic Presidential ads with the actors saying "I've always voted Republican, but this time . . . "
 
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Here's the NBC News video Think Progress Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republican Operative

(I'm sure it would be easy to find more info if you google it)
And what new information is contained in the news vid? The erroneous statement that Ms Blish's LinkedIn profile shows her to be a member of the Republican National Committee? She's a "member" of a group on LinkedIn titled Republican National Committee. Anyone can join such a group simply by clicking a button.

All of which establishes that she was active in Republican Party politics. The NBC vid does not contain anything to refute her statement that she hadn't paid her dues in 2 years (if she hadn't paid her dues after 2007, her involvement with the local Republican party would have ended in early 2008--exactly when her profile says it does).

Everything on the LinkedIn page and in the news video supports her account of herself.
 
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I don't understand this whole "republican operative" concept. What makes somebody a "republican operative"?

Anyone that is unhappy with what the liberals are doing automatically become 'republican operatives' or, with the case of Obama, 'they just don't like black people'.

And there is no proof that this woman is currently a member of the Republican party, only that she WAS. And for the record, it is possible to leave a party if you don't like it anymore.

WHAT DOES IT MATTER??? Let's say the republicans sent an 'operative' to one of the 20 events that saw congressmen get shouted down, at the other 19 events there was still 90% + of the crowd that were expressing their displeasure with Obama-care... some of these events were only circultated to registered democrats to start, and most of those people are very unhappy as well... so does that mean that Obama's supporters suddenly caught the new 'racist bug' that's been going around since he's been elected?


dictionary: operative - Ask.com Search
Definitions of 'operative'
(ŏṕər-ə-tĭv, -ə-rā́tĭv, ŏṕrə-)
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(noun)

1. A skilled worker, especially in industry.
2.
1. A secret agent; a spy.
2. A private investigator.
3. One who works for a political organization, often wielding influence out of public view.

Thus, deception is the key here.(she was obviously trying to keep her GOP affiliation secret)

What about the REST OF THE 80-90%+ of each of these crowds??? Are they operatives too?? Is EVERYONE a racist repblican operative that is pissed off about this proposed health-care bill??

Can you show me where she says she left because she didn't like it anymore?
Can you prove she hasn't paid her dues? (Maybe she had her husband right the check so that she could say SHE hasn't paid her dues.......Is that not also possible?

COMPLETELY IRRELEVENT!!

(As a former fed investigator, I'd be willing to bet that her dues ARE all paid....Just a hunch.)

OMG NO... 1 republican woman in a crowd of a few hundred chanting against the new healthcare bill is a registered republican... what did she do, pay off the entire crowd to shout the representative down??


These people are demanding the truth from their public servants. Yes, the public servants are free to say what they want and the people they serve are free to call them down when they are lieing, or misrepresenting the will of the people.

These are the same tactics that have been used by the Leftists for 40 years. Hell, the Leftists invented this strategy. I think they're just getting pissy because the tables are turned. I find it funny as hell.

Now with Obama they get the extra benefit that ONLY a racist could possibly go against Obama's policies... I swear is't gotten to the point where Obama could get caught eating a baby, and he'd turn to his teleprompter and say 'what you don't like people eating babies... why don't you like black people??'

I don't support shouting people down.

Hey, if an elected REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE cannot handle the voice of his constituents... he should remove himself from office... "can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen." is an appropriate expression.

It's like when people show up at college casmpuses to scream at David Horowitz or something -- if the behavior is thuggish, it has no place.

You know what else has no place in AMERICA?? An elected official snubbing the views of the people that elected him in the first place. There is nothing 'thuggish' about shouting down a political figure if they are acting against the will of the people... especially if it's done in a peaceful manner.


I'm more of an old school guy, myself, in that I support marches and protests when they are non violent, but I do not support intimidation, physical threats, bullying behavior, mob thuggery, or the infringement upon other people's rights.

Take in France... someone tries growing GM crops, the people come and burn it down. If the politicians act against the will of the people, they gett off their a$$ and they riot.

If you got a bully that's trying to take your lunch money, and don't get anywhere talking to him... the next step is walking up and punching him in the nose. Right now these guys are acting like the bully that just got punched in the nose and they're going to 'dad' (obama / the press) and crying about how they are having a hard time to have their way.

To give an example, if people wish to protest around abortion clinics, more power to them. Carry some signs, sing some songs, hand out some literature, no prob. If they start actively intimidating women entering the clinic, however, then they have crossed the line that seperates peaceful protest from thuggery.

This is a different situation... you're talking about going out and intimidating a poor woman that's made the decision... while I may not agree with that decision, it's hers to make and she deserves protection.

An elected official is no longer just a 'private citizen' he is a 'public official' who must answer to his public.


Same goes for the people organized against health care. If they wish to gather outside the venue, OR if they wish to present their case in a reasonable manner within the venue, that's just fine. If they are using bullying tactis to prevent OTHERS from expressing their views, though, they have crossed the line.

Bolded - Free speech zones means nobody has free speech unless they are in that zone... that's at the least a slight to the constitution and at worst a punk slap to the face of the founders who fought and died for our rights to be able to speak our minds in the first place.

Did you watch the videos?? Have you seen what's been going on at these town hall meetings?? Go find the raw videos... there you'll see the entire town halls in a couple cases where everyone is shouting to 'just say no' to the healthcare plan... They are not stopping anyone else from voicing their opinions... it's the common opinion of the poeple that is being expressed at these meetings... the ONLY PEOPLE crossing the line are the public officials who respond to this by saying 'I don't care what you say, I've made my decision'

I believe that one person's right to swing their fist ends at another person's nose. You seem to be of the opinion that your own personal opinion on the subject means that your own right extends to the point of making contact.

Do you think we live in China or South Korea or something like that where the people in power have no concerns about their people??

If a representative is no longer representing, then he's getting a check for not doing his job, and it becomes the peoples right to pick him up out of his office and throw him out onto the street... no, wait... it's the people's DUTY to DEMAND that these public officials do their jobs.

Again, though, one does not foster free speech by acts geared towards suppressing it. This is just the :spin: of those who support the thuggery to try to obfuscate the real issue -- that they are simply attempting to FORCE their own opinions into policy.

Noone is trying to 'suppress anyones speech' these people that are legitimately pissed off are engaging in their right to free speech by demanding that their representatives actually pursue the will of the people rather then the will of the lobby groups that buy them steak dinners on a regular basis.


I saw it already and she was not just knee deep she was swimming in it

WHO CARES?!?! These people shouting down politicians ALL ACROSS AMERICA all get discredited as racist republican agents, because of this 1 woman??

OMG and people say I'M DELUSIONAL.
 
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Now we have proof of the GOP operatives charge but they will still (of course) torture logic & English & deny fact.

The real agenda is obvious to me:
This has less to do with HC reform dislike & everything to do with anger over losing the election & being out of power.

In my opinion, the Republicans care less about their country than they do about nullifying the will of the people. I believe they really pray for another terrorist attack, economic disaster or anything else to nullify the election of Obama.

These town hall "Beer Putches" have little to do with HC.




nonsense. you have one woman who happens to be a republican... lets review actual evidence shall we:




They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. look at this picture of protesters. On the right, protesters with home made signs. On the left sheeple's with signs made by a pro Obama care organization. Who are the grass roots concerned Americans and who are the Orchestrated (fake) lockstep socialist Obamacrats?
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Orchestrated by healthcareforamericanow.org
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All of these pictures came from a demonstration in Denver. Notice the difference?
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Lets also not forget the union thugs too! :thumbs:
 
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I don't understand this whole "republican operative" concept. What makes somebody a "republican operative"?

And there is no proof that this woman is currently a member of the Republican party, only that she WAS. And for the record, it is possible to leave a party if you don't like it anymore.





so what if she is.... does not mean she is some operative for some huge conspiracy....


And you will also note the huge hypocrisy of the usual suspects here as some cheerlead union thugs committing felony assault on protestors, and ignoring thier own "staged" counter protest...


see above post for actual evidence
 
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You know what? I am tickled pink over the uproar because ordinary average Americans are finally waking up!

Your average American is standing quietly in the background watching GOP & HC thugs try to stifle anyone else from being heard.


Your average American elected Obama in no small part, based on his promise to reform HC.

Your average American is insulted by the ridiculous lies the right keeps pushing:

Obama wants to kill old people.
Obama is an illegal alien
Obama wants to take you guns away

etc..etc..etc
 
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Your average American is standing quietly in the background watching GOP & HC thugs try to stifle anyone else from being heard.


Your average American elected Obama in no small part, based on his promise to reform HC.

Your average American is insulted by the ridiculous lies the right keeps pushing:

Obama wants to kill old people.
Obama is an illegal alien
Obama wants to take you guns away

etc..etc..etc





Still nothing on the staged lw protestors, union thugs? :roll:
 
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Your average American are standing quietly in the background watching GOP & HC thugs try to stifle anyone else from being heard.
Horsesh!t! We've heard nothing (zip, zero, nada) from the GOP at this juncture. It is Der Komissar and his willing minions that are perpretrating the lies!


Your average American elected Obama in no small part, based on his promise to reform HC.
Reform it to what?? A Soviet-Style assembly line?? No thank you!!! And BTW, Obummer was elected because of the media lapdogs!
 
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Your average American is standing quietly in the background watching GOP & HC thugs try to stifle anyone else from being heard.

What is any of this based upon?? Do I need to link to the videos again and let them speak for themselves??

Your average American elected Obama in no small part, based on his promise to reform HC.

LMAO... Obama was elected by a 'cult of personality'...

That aside, there is a vast difference between guaranteeing health-care for all and the 1300 page monstrosity that's been passed off as 'reform'. This bill would kill the economy, end many small business, make it like 'unemployment insurance' where for every 10-50$ going INTO health-care only delivers 1-2$ for actual medical services.

Your average American is insulted by the ridiculous lies the right keeps pushing:

You're forgetting about the 20 other events across america which saw congressment getting shouted down by their own constituents... but ehy... maybe if these people don't want to have a healthcare system that willl give them an aspirin for a heart attack, and will see the elderly euthanized... maybe you're right, people don't want to die at 60 because they just don't like black people. (please tell me that you can see the level of just how rediculous that statement is)

Obama wants to kill old people.
Obama is an illegal alien
Obama wants to take you guns away

etc..etc..etc

IT'S IN THE BILL!!! The bill is available foro you to read for yourself... it's over 1000 pages, so get a cup of coffee first...

See how much of a racist that document makes you as well.... or are you saying that a republican operative wrote the bill as a means of bringing out the racism of the american people??


I swear I feel like I'm arguing with a mental patient... some scizophrenic (sp?) that sees racists around every corner, in every nook and cranny, racists EVERYWHERE!!

- People don't like Obama's policies : Racist
- People don't want to be slaves : racist
- People don't want a police state : racist
- Someone doesn't like when you cut them off : racist
- black people oppose the same things cause they are racists against their own race
 
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IT'S IN THE BILL!!!

Since we are referring to the lie that Obama wants to kill old people, please copy & paste the wording in the bill that proves your insane & (very insulting to average American's intelligence) claim.
(this is why we just laugh at you & play with you on these debate forums. You don't have the courtesy to not insult our intelligence with your outrageous BS, & think maybe some of us are dumb enough to fall for it. Everything you guys do is based on DECEPTION, LIES & SCARE TACTICS. You already have the far right "loonies" with you...but...You can never hope to win another national general election with JUST them.(You guys just don't seem to get it)
 
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Why does this woman rate any kind of importance?

Maybe she wouldn't feel the need to lie if it wasn't so damn important to the media who everybody was at the meeting. They intimidated her into lying. It's none of anybody's business who she is!
 
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Why does this woman rate any kind of importance?
Because she is the first GOP operative caught in a lie, trying to hide her GOP affiliation with I'm "Just a Mom" BS.

Maybe she wouldn't feel the need to lie if it wasn't so damn important to the media who everybody was at the meeting. They intimidated her into lying. It's none of anybody's business who she is!
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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