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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    These town hall "Beer Putches" have little to do with HC.
    I doubt whether too many of the extremists to whom you direct this statement understand your reference, as I doubt whether they even know what the beer putsch was, nor recognize its signifigance.
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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I doubt whether too many of the extremists to whom you direct this statement understand your reference, as I doubt whether they even know what the beer putsch was, nor recognize its signifigance.
    I understand his reference--even if he spelled putsch wrong--and he couldn't more off base. Unless, he's directing the referrence towards the Dems, of course.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    These people are demanding the truth from their public servants. Yes, the public servants are free to say what they want and the people they serve are free to call them down when they are lieing, or misrepresenting the will of the people.

    These are the same tactics that have been used by the Leftists for 40 years. Hell, the Leftists invented this strategy. I think they're just getting pissy because the tables are turned. I find it funny as hell.
    The will of the people is certainly an important concept, but these thugs are working against such rather than for it. The entire reason they have been organized to try to shout down any discusson is to give the impression there is more objection to it than actually exists - -an impression that becomes a fait accompli if they succeed to the point they can influence the sheep-like to follow suit by actually changing their own opinion.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/he...cy/21poll.html

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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The will of the people is certainly an important concept, but these thugs are working against such rather than for it. The entire reason they have been organized to try to shout down any discusson is to give the impression there is more objection to it than actually exists - -an impression that becomes a fait accompli if they succeed to the point they can influence the sheep-like to follow suit by actually changing their own opinion.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/he...cy/21poll.html

    Single-Payer Poll, Survey, and Initiative Results

    Poll indicates generational split over health care - CNN.com
    WEll, if you look at the polls, you'll see that numbers are in line with the people getting fired up at the town hall meetings. If there were so many people that supported PBO's plan, whatever it is, the dissenters would have been shouted down. I mean, the pro OC folks are under standing orders from the Messiah to, "get in their faces".
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    WEll, if you look at the polls, you'll see that numbers are in line with the people getting fired up at the town hall meetings. If there were so many people that supported PBO's plan, whatever it is, the dissenters would have been shouted down. I mean, the pro OC folks are under standing orders from the Messiah to, "get in their faces".
    Politeness is no guage of opinion.

    Heaven help us if we ever live in a world where only the rude hold sway.
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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Politeness is no guage of opinion.

    Heaven help us if we ever live in a world where only the rude hold sway.
    LOL...I remember when a certain side of the political fence claimed that protest, dissent and civil disobedience were patriotic.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    She can't attend a function as a parent?
    I don't recall anyone making that silly argument.
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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    LOL...I remember when a certain side of the political fence claimed that protest, dissent and civil disobedience were patriotic.
    I don't support shouting people down.

    It's like when people show up at college casmpuses to scream at David Horowitz or something -- if the behavior is thuggish, it has no place.


    I'm more of an old school guy, myself, in that I support marches and protests when they are non violent, but I do not support intimidation, physical threats, bullying behavior, mob thuggery, or the infringement upon other people's rights.

    To give an example, if people wish to protest around abortion clinics, more power to them. Carry some signs, sing some songs, hand out some literature, no prob. If they start actively intimidating women entering the clinic, however, then they have crossed the line that seperates peaceful protest from thuggery. Same goes for the people organized against health care. If they wish to gather outside the venue, OR if they wish to present their case in a reasonable manner within the venue, that's just fine. If they are using bullying tactis to prevent OTHERS from expressing their views, though, they have crossed the line.

    I believe that one person's right to swing their fist ends at another person's nose. You seem to be of the opinion that your own personal opinion on the subject means that your own right extends to the point of making contact.

    Again, though, one does not foster free speech by acts geared towards suppressing it. This is just the of those who support the thuggery to try to obfuscate the real issue -- that they are simply attempting to FORCE their own opinions into policy.
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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    I don't understand this whole "republican operative" concept. What makes somebody a "republican operative"?

    And there is no proof that this woman is currently a member of the Republican party, only that she WAS. And for the record, it is possible to leave a party if you don't like it anymore.

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    Re: Exposed: Republican Operative Lies

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    I don't understand this whole "republican operative" concept. What makes somebody a "republican operative"?

    And there is no proof that this woman is currently a member of the Republican party, only that she WAS. And for the record, it is possible to leave a party if you don't like it anymore.
    Even if the "was" is an "is", what proof is there that she was present for any reason but her own motivation? What proof is there that she was sent--by the RNC, by a lobbying firm, by anybody?

    If we disallow commentary on the basis of political affiliation, then we have forsworn democracy. Ridicule her if you like for her Republican ways--that, too, is part of participatory democracy--but do not remove her right to speak and to present her view of things.

    It is worth noting further that Ms Blish was uniformly civil and courteous the entire time she was on camera. She did not silence anybody with loud shouts; she did not prevent anyone else from being heard; she did not infringe upon any person's rights, under the First Amendment or otherwise.

    If hers is the discourse the liberals wish to silence, then they are at odds with the entirety of American political history as well as the particulars of the United States Constitution.

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