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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

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    Sorry man, I missed the the last warning on it. There may be one more mention of it somewhere. I am looking to find and edit it. It won't happen again. I have moved the conversation to the appropriate place.
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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post

    As far as this woman, she didn't "lie her ass off" as it appears she is currently no longer part a part of the republican party, simply a registered republican, yes?

    & you accept that as true because she claims she hasn't paid her dues for a while? It's not possible that her dues are fully paid & current & that she simply lied to the NBC reporter to cover her tracks?
    Personally, I'd like to see some proof of what she claimed. (not that simply being a deadbeat (by not paying your bills) means anything but you are untrustworthy in the first place.......but I wouldn't be surprised if the ...not paying her dues line was a lie as well)
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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Except there's been ZERO proof that "multi-billion dollar insureres" are hiring organizers. There have been proof that PACS have been ORGANIZING people (still no proof that people have been paid...I stll think some have, I think its a small minority, and I think that its happening on both sides such as shown in Rev's above post) but how is a PAC on the right organizing something any different than a politicial group on teh left organizing something. Why is one "grassroots" and the others not?

    As far as this woman, she didn't "lie her ass off" as it appears she is currently no longer part a part of the republican party, simply a registered republican, yes? Or are you advocating that everyone that has ever had anything to do with a political party should get up at a town hall and run down their resume before speaking?
    Oh quit being so disingenuous for god's sake. This woman lied. Have you not read anything? Obviously not, or you are selectively choosing in what to read. The woman actively worked to unseat this specific Congress member as a member of his Republican opponent's campaign. She has a long list of associations with the Republican party, as well as employment with the Republican party. So no, she is not as she says “not affiliated with any political party." That is complete and utter B.S. and you god damn well know it. This is the one thing that just grinds my gears, in the face of reality you still want to argue that this woman was just some average Jane?

    And for the last time, speaking just for myself, I have not had issue if people in opposition to the bills at hand wish to organize. What I have an issue with is when a lobbying firm puts out a memo telling their activists to disrupt town halls so that no discussion can occur. The whole issue of people being paid off is something one person brought up, and you can take that up with them.

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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Oh quit being so disingenuous for god's sake. This woman lied. Have you not read anything? Obviously not, or you are selectively choosing in what to read. The woman actively worked to unseat this specific Congress member as a member of his Republican opponent's campaign. She has a long list of associations with the Republican party, as well as employment with the Republican party. So no, she is not as she says “not affiliated with any political party." That is complete and utter B.S. and you god damn well know it. This is the one thing that just grinds my gears, in the face of reality you still want to argue that this woman was just some average Jane?
    Was she being a bit dishonest? Yes. Was she lying? No. Do I condone her doing it? Absolutely not. Does her dishonesty equal what the story in the first post is trying to imply, that she's an "operative" for the Republican party? Absolutely not. There's no more evidence she was doing this on behalf of the Republican party, to be an "operative", then it is that she said what she did so as to try and make her point not seem overly biased.

    Perhaps if the story didn't try to imply or make accusations of things that it doesn't prove, or if in your OP you had given some commentary to the contrary, there'd be a larger meeting of the minds. However when your starting point is overageration based on specious facts then I stop giving the benefit of the doubt that when people say "she lied" they're really meaning "She's being dishonest".

    And for the last time, speaking just for myself, I have not had issue if people in opposition to the bills at hand wish to organize. What I have an issue with is when a lobbying firm puts out a memo telling their activists to disrupt town halls so that no discussion can occur. The whole issue of people being paid off is something one person brought up, and you can take that up with them.
    Well, that's great for you. I'm not speaking just with you, but with those on the thread in general on the opposite side. Its hardly "one" perosn that's been mentioning the paid thing, with Devil, Formerroadie, and WillRockwell all being large proponents of the "they're paid off" theory.

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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Well, that's great for you. I'm not speaking just with you, but with those on the thread in general on the opposite side. Its hardly "one" perosn that's been mentioning the paid thing, with Devil, Formerroadie, and WillRockwell all being large proponents of the "they're paid off" theory.
    Hey, that sounds like they are....umm....what's the word..."organized."

    I wonder who's paying them? Do we know they're not being paid? Can we be certain they're not "plants" of Dear Leader and the Anti-Republican Party?

    After all, paranoia should be an equal opportunity affliction.

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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Where did I advocate she be silenced?
    You advocated kicking her out of the meeting. That would have the same effect.

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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Hey, that sounds like they are....umm....what's the word..."organized."

    I wonder who's paying them? Do we know they're not being paid? Can we be certain they're not "plants" of Dear Leader and the Anti-Republican Party?

    After all, paranoia should be an equal opportunity affliction.
    Being organized is not the problem. It's HIDING the fact that your are an organized group & posing as just impartial concerned citizens (without an agenda) that makes it deception, deceitful & lying. Your guys understand what I'm saying.......You just will never admit that I am right!
    If some of us on the left had organized, the difference we would stand up, like grown men & admit it. Our points would be nonetheless valid because we had organized. We have the guts to be truthful & enough confidence in the American voter that we don't need to TRICK him.
    Again, it is the GOP's attempts at DECEPTION that are the key here & a large reason why you guys are out of power & will remain so.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Was she being a bit dishonest? Yes.
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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Being organized is not the problem. It's HIDING the fact that your are an organized group & posing as just impartial concerned citizens (without an agenda) .
    She's still a citizen and has a right to speak her mind on issues of public interest. This is a fundamental American right. What are you going to do, conduct litmus tests for free speech?

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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    She's still a citizen and has a right to speak her mind on issues of public interest. This is a fundamental American right. What are you going to do, conduct litmus tests for free speech?
    You totally miss the point & I assume it was intentional.

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    Re: Woman Who Said She Was ‘Just A Mom’ At Town Hall Meeting Is Exposed As A Republic

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    You totally miss the point & I assume it was intentional.
    You're totally missing the bill of rights, and I assume it was intentional.

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