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    Re: Labor Gets Involved In Town-Halls

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post
    If socialized medicine is so bad, why is the life expectancy in France so much longer that it is in the United States?
    That's a misnomer, they don't rate for certain cultural factors that skew the data such as inner city crime, abortion, etc., they look at overall mortality rates and don't weed out strictly medical. The numbers line up more closely when rated for such factors, and if I remember correctly, the U.S. comes out better for a properly weighted mortality table when discussing healthcare.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Labor Gets Involved In Town-Halls

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    So... it's okay that the insurance and drug co's are spending 1.4 million a day to try and spread fear about healthcare reform, but not okay for the average working stiff to voice their opinion?



    Really? 1.4 million a day? I noticed you did not provide a link for this claim.
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    Re: Labor Gets Involved In Town-Halls

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    So... it's okay that the insurance and drug co's are spending 1.4 million a day to try and spread fear about healthcare reform, but not okay for the average working stiff to voice their opinion?
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Really? 1.4 million a day? I noticed you did not provide a link for this claim.
    You really ought to bookmark google, it woulld save you from a lot of spankings:

    Former Lawmakers and Congressional Staffers Hired to Lobby on Health Care - washingtonpost.com

    Grassley, Steele, DeMint, We obfuscate not legislate on healthcare.

    $1 million a day to skew health care | HeraldTribune.com | Sarasota Florida | Southwest Florida's Information Leader

    Wasted premium dollars.....1.4 million a day on lobbying - 6th Jul, 11:13 AM - Nursing for Nurses

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    Re: Labor Gets Involved In Town-Halls

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Buddy, there is a lot of stuff you won't find in the Constitution....
    We need to get rid of it, then.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Labor Gets Involved In Town-Halls

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Really? 1.4 million a day? I noticed you did not provide a link for this claim.
    This is the thing with you Reverend, you can not be this grossly ignorant, so instead you post what you know as false. Unless your entire feed of information comes strictly from this forum...and even then. This has been reported on just about every single news source (well I don't know about FIXed) for several months now. Can you honestly try and tell me you need a source for this? When it has been repeated over and over?

    No, you know this as a fact, and yet you wish to dispute it in the last and only way you can..by demanding a source? How about waking up and turning on the TV, or reading a newspaper?

    If I say the country of Belgium is in Europe, are you now going to ask me for a source on this as well?

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    Re: Labor Gets Involved In Town-Halls

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    This is the thing with you Reverend, you can not be this grossly ignorant, so instead you post what you know as false. Unless your entire feed of information comes strictly from this forum...and even then. This has been reported on just about every single news source (well I don't know about FIXed) for several months now. Can you honestly try and tell me you need a source for this? When it has been repeated over and over?

    No, you know this as a fact, and yet you wish to dispute it in the last and only way you can..by demanding a source? How about waking up and turning on the TV, or reading a newspaper?

    If I say the country of Belgium is in Europe, are you now going to ask me for a source on this as well?



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    Re: Labor Gets Involved In Town-Halls

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Well if you're a realist as your name implies, then you know we're already paying out the nose for others HC. That $50 band-aid you paid for in the hospital goes to cover the poor that only have the emergency room as their HC provider.

    It seems to me that the fiscally responsible thing to do (along with being pro-life), would be to clean up the waste, fraud, and abuses that leave all too many people without coverage and which rising costs are on a path to put us all in the poorhouse.
    So,,,you think that having Nationalized Healthcare is going to :

    clean up the waste, fraud, and abuses that leave all too many people without coverage and which rising costs are on a path to put us all in the poorhouse.[/QUOTE]


    Please.

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    Re: Labor Gets Involved In Town-Halls

    As a graduate student at Sciences Po in Paris, I was covered under the French health care system. I paid the equivalent of $300 for the semester, which granted me comprehensive coverage. During this time, I went to a doctor's office three times and got lab work done once. I never waited longer than one waits in an American doctor's office, the facilities were not sub-standard, and the government didn't come between me and my doctor. No piles of paperwork to fill out (like I have in the U.S.). No worrying about whether or not my insurance would cover it (like I do in the U.S.). I simply chose the physician I wanted to see (none of this in-group, out-group crap), paid a few small fees (generally 22 euros for a visit, much of which was refundable), got my instructions or prescriptions from the doctor and went on with my life. The security of it all felt amazing.

    Parisian Spring: French Health Care

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