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After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

Less than 1200 people polled?

These polls really don't mean much.
 
Laila said:
Says something about the voters *cough*

You do not judge after 6 months. Give it a reasonable amount of time
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I think it's that whole instant gratification thing. :doh :2razz:
 
i should have left the country before the election. Obama took over a train wreck. Bush took over a house in fairly good shape.

Bush is the reason we are where we are right now. Obama's failures won't play out for years yet. then you can call bad.

i i am disappointed in Obama as her deserted the LGBT that supported him and that he has not removed the troops from Iraq. i would not vote for him now knowing that this would be the case. i would not have voted McCain either. i would have found a nice safe communist to vote for instead.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I think more people actually had expectations for the Obama presidency. Whereas, with Bush, very few people thought he was going to do a good job, he just seemed less inept than Gore.

I may have to revisit that opinion. I can't figure out which of them would have been worse.

I wish Dole had won the primary. :(
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I still think Gore would have been worse, that being said GWB was my anti-gore and I wasn't exactly ecstatic about voting for him, more or less I felt like I was voting for dumb to keep dumber out of the presidency. With Obama, I saw through the mask almost immediately, he's all polish but no substance and it's starting to show through now for more people, I hated voting for McCain and am getting sick and tired of Republicans using a person's "turn in line" for the nomination, that schtick got us McCain and W. and, well, the results speak volumes. What really got me depressed was the primaries of '08, we had Moe,Larry, and Curly running for presidency and Moe lost out to Curly, so we had to vote for either of the two lackey stooges and everyone was pretty much screwed.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
i should have left the country before the election. Obama took over a train wreck. Bush took over a house in fairly good shape.
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There were some problems that the congress/administration didn't properly address, but when looking back, there were decades of bad policy and abuses dating back to the 60's/70's that mutated over the years and became problems, everyone shares a little blame in the current situation I'm afraid.

Bush is the reason we are where we are right now. Obama's failures won't play out for years yet. then you can call bad.
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I've maintained for quite some time now that a presidents legacy plays out in the decade or so that they are out of office, however I am not a fan of the groundwork being laid out right now.

i i am disappointed in Obama as her deserted the LGBT that supported him and that he has not removed the troops from Iraq. i would not vote for him now knowing that this would be the case. i would not have voted McCain either. i would have found a nice safe communist to vote for instead.
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My one argument against an immediate pullout of Iraq hasn't changed over the last couple of years, I don't think we want a middle east power vacuum in a country the size of Iraq, it's also part of the Iran problem, sure, we could crush the current leadership there too, but cleaning up the mess is the tricky part, that region has more than it's fair share of problems, and we have to treat it with the utmost caution.
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Laila said:
I think you mean Palin.

I liked McCain, i think he would have attracted more moderates if he just didn't pick such a nutty VP.
Its a shame Clinton did not win
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McCain was losing before he picked Palin.
 
aps said:
I think our economy was solid in the first six months of 2001, so I am not surprised that Bush's presidency was rated as more of a success than Obama's.
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We were in a recession. Remember that whole dot-com thing? Kind of a big deal.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I disagree. McCain was as bad as Obama in the end, the conservative right was unimpressed.


I couldn't vote McCain. and I wasn't the only one.
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There was no one that I could vote for with a sound conscious. As such, I didn't vote for Obama or McCain. I intentionally threw my vote away and voted for Bob Barr even though I don't see him as a real libertarian. But hey, at least it gave 3rd party candidates a little support.
 
phattonez said:
There was no one that I could vote for with a sound conscious. As such, I didn't vote for Obama or McCain. I intentionally threw my vote away and voted for Bob Barr even though I don't see him as a real libertarian. But hey, at least it gave 3rd party candidates a little support.
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I refused Barr because he was no libertarian... I voted like Obama, "present"
 
I think all the poll demonstrated is the lack of tolerance of the Right. Even though he stole the 2000 election, more Democrats were willing to give George Bush a chance than Republicans willing to give the Colored Guy a chance.
 
WillRockwell said:
I think all the poll demonstrated is the lack of tolerance of the Right.
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Yeah, because we are soooo not pissed about his policies and just judging him because he's black.:roll:[sarcasm off]
Even though he stole the 2000 election, more Democrats were willing to give George Bush a chance
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Okay, to your first point, Bush won by Florida voting law, Gore lost, the local papers there and around the country confirmed everything was legal, and Gore lost, get over it. To your second point, bull ****, all one has to do is go back and read the pundits from the left, the coverage from the left, AND some of the rabid partisans on this board alone to disprove that little theory of yours.
than Republicans willing to give the Colored Guy a chance.
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Funny choice of words there when you speak of tolerance, let's see, GOP chairman: Michael Steele, first black secretary of state: Condy Rice, Reagan appointed Clarence Thomas to the supreme court and we on the right celebrate his life and opinions, the Civil Rights Act was passed by a Republican congress and signed by LBJ......should I go on?
 
WillRockwell said:
I think all the poll demonstrated is the lack of tolerance of the Right. Even though he stole the 2000 election, more Democrats were willing to give George Bush a chance than Republicans willing to give the Colored Guy a chance.
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Don't bring race into this. Its pathetic how some jump on the fact Obama is Black as a reason for everything. Maybe his policies are just sh*t? Thought of that?

Even I am beginning to dislike Obama.
And i'm Black ... and liberal
 
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Here's a clue for you; the collapse of the Real Estate market and stock markets was set up when Democrats refused to do anything about Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae when Republicans held their hearings on the matter.
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... in spite of the way edited youtube videos framed that event (by showing a chorus of Republican congressmen dissenting and Democratic Congressmen affirming), opposition to intervention in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae was overall bipartisan.
 
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disneydude said:
The really funny thing about this poll is that it measures each 6 months into their Presidency before their policies have really had much of a chance to effect anything.

6 months into GWB's Presidency, I doubt anyone would have expected the damage that his policies would do to the United States. A more accurate number would be "What percentage view his Presidency as a success/failure" after he has left office.
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What policies were those, specifically?

And, of course, that's the difference -- 6 mothns in, people DO expect/understand the damage The Obama's policies will do...
 
disneydude said:
You seriously want me to sit here and list all of GWB's and the GOP Congress policies, bills and positions for the 8 years of his Presidency....just because you haven't been following along?
Sorry dude.
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No. Just the ones in place as of 21 July 2001.
You know -- 6 months in.
 
Gibberish said:
Of course he was. The American populace doesn't realize that the electoral vote and not the popular vote dictates the election. Bush lost the popular vote but won the electoral.
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Given that the only pople claiming that Bush stole the election or that he was 'selected not elected', you must be arguing that liberals doesn't realize that the electoral vote and not the popular vote dictates the election.

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What policies were those, specifically?
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Cutting taxes while upping spending created debt which contributed to inflation.

Not addressing overwrought government programs like Medicare also contributed to debt, and thus inflation.

Response to recession lagged and was insufficient.
 
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My take on this 6-month comparison between President Obama and former President Bush is this:

6 months into Bush's presidency there was nothing going on except briefing after briefing on tracking terrorist actions within the U.S. and abroad. But other than following the terrorist (which this country failed miserably at), the Bush administration had little to contend with.

Compare that to what President Obama has had to deal with: an economy in shambles, restoring trust and improving U.S. image abroad, dealing with ending one war and continuing another, restoring some of the moral fiber this country lost IMO when it comes to treating prisoners of war (or suspected POWs within the framework of how to deal with terrorist suspects)..., the list goes on and on.

I'm sure others have already voiced their opinions on the matter, but I really don't think it's fair to compare the two presidents at this juncture. I really don't think anyone with this much to deal with at one time can be fairly assessed in six months time. Give it 2 yrs into his presidency and then let's talk about it.
 
Morality Games said:
Cutting taxes while upping spending created debt which contributed to inflation.
Not addressing overwrought government programs like Medicare also contributed to debt, and thus inflation.
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So.... the policy you choose to cite is the 2001 tax cut?
What -was- inflation 2001-2008?


Response to recession lagged and was insufficient.
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Really?
The recession was over at the end of the 3rd quarter of 2001.
 
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Goobieman said:
So.... the policy you choose to cite is the 2001 tax cut?
What -was- inflation 2001-2008?
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... Uh, inflation was noticeable before 2008. Try 2005.

Really?
The recession was over at the end of the 3rd quarter of 2001.
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Current (and worse) recession.
 
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Morality Games said:
... Uh, inflation was noticeable before 2008. Try 2005.
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I asked you what it was. Well?
And, how did the 2001 tax cut cause it?

Current (and worse) recession.
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We're discussing GWBs polices in place as of 20 JUly 2001.
 
Goobieman said:
Morality Games said:
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You'll have to do a LOT better than that.

You also haven't posted the inflation rates 2001-2008.
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I'm not your go to guy. Inflation rates aren't necessary unless you reject either of the following:

Point #1 Bush did not run up debt.

Point #2 Debt does not create inflation.
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