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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think all the poll demonstrated is the lack of tolerance of the Right.
    Yeah, because we are soooo not pissed about his policies and just judging him because he's black.[sarcasm off]
    Even though he stole the 2000 election, more Democrats were willing to give George Bush a chance
    Okay, to your first point, Bush won by Florida voting law, Gore lost, the local papers there and around the country confirmed everything was legal, and Gore lost, get over it. To your second point, bull ****, all one has to do is go back and read the pundits from the left, the coverage from the left, AND some of the rabid partisans on this board alone to disprove that little theory of yours.
    than Republicans willing to give the Colored Guy a chance.
    Funny choice of words there when you speak of tolerance, let's see, GOP chairman: Michael Steele, first black secretary of state: Condy Rice, Reagan appointed Clarence Thomas to the supreme court and we on the right celebrate his life and opinions, the Civil Rights Act was passed by a Republican congress and signed by LBJ......should I go on?
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think all the poll demonstrated is the lack of tolerance of the Right. Even though he stole the 2000 election, more Democrats were willing to give George Bush a chance than Republicans willing to give the Colored Guy a chance.
    Don't bring race into this. Its pathetic how some jump on the fact Obama is Black as a reason for everything. Maybe his policies are just sh*t? Thought of that?

    Even I am beginning to dislike Obama.
    And i'm Black ... and liberal
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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    Here's a clue for you; the collapse of the Real Estate market and stock markets was set up when Democrats refused to do anything about Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae when Republicans held their hearings on the matter.
    ... in spite of the way edited youtube videos framed that event (by showing a chorus of Republican congressmen dissenting and Democratic Congressmen affirming), opposition to intervention in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae was overall bipartisan.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 08-07-09 at 12:20 PM.

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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The really funny thing about this poll is that it measures each 6 months into their Presidency before their policies have really had much of a chance to effect anything.

    6 months into GWB's Presidency, I doubt anyone would have expected the damage that his policies would do to the United States. A more accurate number would be "What percentage view his Presidency as a success/failure" after he has left office.
    What policies were those, specifically?

    And, of course, that's the difference -- 6 mothns in, people DO expect/understand the damage The Obama's policies will do...

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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It was exactly 6 months into the Bush presidency that he ignored the briefing paper titled "bin Laden determined to strike in US"
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf
    Anyone claiming the Obama administration is a "failure" should remember what a real failure looked like.
    More partisan hackery.

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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You seriously want me to sit here and list all of GWB's and the GOP Congress policies, bills and positions for the 8 years of his Presidency....just because you haven't been following along?
    Sorry dude.
    No. Just the ones in place as of 21 July 2001.
    You know -- 6 months in.

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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Of course he was. The American populace doesn't realize that the electoral vote and not the popular vote dictates the election. Bush lost the popular vote but won the electoral.
    Given that the only pople claiming that Bush stole the election or that he was 'selected not elected', you must be arguing that liberals doesn't realize that the electoral vote and not the popular vote dictates the election.

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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    What policies were those, specifically?
    Cutting taxes while upping spending created debt which contributed to inflation.

    Not addressing overwrought government programs like Medicare also contributed to debt, and thus inflation.

    Response to recession lagged and was insufficient.
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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    My take on this 6-month comparison between President Obama and former President Bush is this:

    6 months into Bush's presidency there was nothing going on except briefing after briefing on tracking terrorist actions within the U.S. and abroad. But other than following the terrorist (which this country failed miserably at), the Bush administration had little to contend with.

    Compare that to what President Obama has had to deal with: an economy in shambles, restoring trust and improving U.S. image abroad, dealing with ending one war and continuing another, restoring some of the moral fiber this country lost IMO when it comes to treating prisoners of war (or suspected POWs within the framework of how to deal with terrorist suspects)..., the list goes on and on.

    I'm sure others have already voiced their opinions on the matter, but I really don't think it's fair to compare the two presidents at this juncture. I really don't think anyone with this much to deal with at one time can be fairly assessed in six months time. Give it 2 yrs into his presidency and then let's talk about it.

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    Re: After 6 Months, More View Obama's Presidency as a 'Failure' Than Bush's

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Cutting taxes while upping spending created debt which contributed to inflation.
    Not addressing overwrought government programs like Medicare also contributed to debt, and thus inflation.
    So.... the policy you choose to cite is the 2001 tax cut?
    What -was- inflation 2001-2008?


    Response to recession lagged and was insufficient.
    Really?
    The recession was over at the end of the 3rd quarter of 2001.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 08-07-09 at 12:31 PM.

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