Republican Attacks FISHY White House Request

[The Prof]

The headline shouldn't be about the Republican Senator. It should be about the administration's BIZARRE request.

Republican leader attacks 'fishy' White House request

A leading Republican US Senator on Wednesday sharply assailed a White House request for supporters to help track "fishy" claims about President Barack Obama's plans to overhaul US health care.

"I am not aware of any precedent for a president asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed "fishy" or otherwise inimical to the White House's political interests," John Cornyn of Texas wrote US President Barack Obama.

"As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of free speech rights," he wrote.

Cornyn was responding to a message on Tuesday from Obama's director of new media, Macon Phillips, who asked on an official White House blog for members of the public to forward questionable claims to the administration.

"There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation," said Phillips.

"Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov," said Philips.

Cornyn, who also leads the Republican effort to expand its 40-seat minority in the Senate, asked how the White House would use the information collected, what actions if any the White House would take against citizens linked to "fishy" claims, and whether they would be told about being flagged.

"I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had your predecessor asked Americans to forward emails critical of his policies to the White House," Cornyn wrote, referring to former president George W. Bush.

"I suspect that you would have been leading the charge in condemning such a program -- and I would have been at your side denouncing such heavy-handed government action," he wrote.

1. Downright unAmerican

2. Outright Chicago-an, is what it is

3. Intimidation

4. Ratting out one's neighbors!

5. Watch what you say!

6. On these very pages!

7. You might get audited!

8. Or worse

9. This crew just does NOT get it

10. They are POLITICALLY killing themselves

11. They have 100 times more to fear from US than we do from THEM

12. Obama's GOING DOWN, baby!

13. He is fast becoming HATED


The Prof

 

[Devil505]

I see no problem with this. To me it's the same thing as reporting a child molester you have info on or guy who beats up an old lady.

 

[TheNextEra]

The headline shouldn't be about the Republican Senator. It should be about the administration's BIZARRE request.

Republican leader attacks 'fishy' White House request



1. Downright unAmerican

2. Outright Chicago-an, is what it is

3. Intimidation

4. Ratting out one's neighbors!

5. Watch what you say!

6. On these very pages!

7. You might get audited!

8. Or worse

9. This crew just does NOT get it

10. They are POLITICALLY killing themselves

11. They have 100 times more to fear from US than we do from THEM

12. Obama's GOING DOWN, baby!

13. He is fast becoming HATED


The Prof

Has Chesswarsnow returned?

 

[apdst]

I see no problem with this. To me it's the same thing as reporting a child molester you have info on or guy who beats up an old lady.

People excercising free speech and child molestors are the same things, now? That's scary!

 

[TOJ]

I see no problem with this. To me it's the same thing as reporting a child molester you have info on or guy who beats up an old lady.

So you see no problem with Republican Senators requesting people report information to their offices about others who express fishy support for governement run healthcare, eh?


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[Devil505]

People excercising free speech and child molestors are the same things, now? That's scary!

No...but paid operatives attempting to squelch freedom of speech are worse than child molesters. Child molesters are mentally ill........operatives are thugs for hire.

 

[Devil505]

So you see no problem with Republican Senators requesting people report information to their offices about others who express fishy support for governement run healthcare, eh?


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I have no doubt they do it all the time.
(sometimes to find & kill rats you have to get down in the sewer where they live)

 

[Kernel Sanders]

There is already a thread on this

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news-blogs/53630-facts-stubborn-things.html

btw - they aren't asking who is saying things about health reform, they're asking about what they're saying. They're trying to keep tabs on what chain letters are saying. It's completely mundane

 

[TOJ]

I have no doubt they do it all the time.
(sometimes to find & kill rats you have to get down in the sewer where they live)

Seeing a boogieman around every corner has to be taxing. Must suck to be you.


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[Councilman]

I am suddenly reminded of the Nazi block wardens which were used to find hiding Jews way back in the late 30s and 40s. If Obama wants to expand his concept the will be right in line with the National Socialist Party of 1919 to 1945.
It also reminds of the old song the John Birch Society. Here's a couple lines from it.

You cannot trust your neighbor or even next of kin
If mommie is a commie then you gotta turn her in

For the total lyrics to confirm a possible parallel; Chad Mitchell Trio - The John Birch Society LYRICS

As I recall the the leader of the National Socialist Party of 1919 to 1945 also wanted to build a peoples car, and I swear I head that repeated by some guy named Obama only he wants his to be electric.
I see nothing FISHEY here. Not much I don't. Do you?

 

[formerroadie]

I agree with trying to stamp out the lies about the health care reform. It's the very strategy of the right here. Much of what has been disseminated (i.e. it's socialist, rationing, death of elderly, etc) are lies. People need to make up their mind on this based on facts and the right don't seem to want to use facts.

 

[hazlnut]

I am suddenly reminded of the Nazi block wardens which were used to find hiding Jews way back in the late 30s and 40s. If Obama wants to expand his concept the will be right in line with the National Socialist Party of 1919 to 1945.

Yeah, because the WH wanting to hear about negative hyper-spin and organized attempts to disrupt town hall meetings is just like it was in Nazi Germany.:roll::roll:

I'm nominating Councilman for the Hyperbolic Spin Analogy of the week award.

In fact, can we just give it too him right now. Page 1 of the thread and he's already whipped out the full Nazi comparison.

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

It takes balls like Coulter to hug the lunatic fringe.

 

[Devil505]

Seeing a boogieman around every corner has to be taxing. Must suck to be you.


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Problem is...The RNC is hiring all these boogiemen.....& they are all quite real. (glad to hear the abject fear from some here that these thugs will be exposed for what they are)

I'll bet we'll have ironclad proof within a week!

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

No...but paid operatives attempting to squelch freedom of speech are worse than child molesters. Child molesters are mentally ill........operatives are thugs for hire.

This post speaks volumes of its author

 

[Devil505]

This post speaks volumes of its author

See you in a week.

 

[Don't Tase Me Bro]

No...but paid operatives attempting to squelch freedom of speech

Problem is...The RNC is hiring all these boogiemen

Where's the proof that all of these town hall debacles are being orchestrated by paid operatives?

 

[Scorpion89]

So this begs the question to Haznut,Devil505 and the rest of you folk son the Left. If Mr. Bush did this would you al be running around screamming you r little collective heads off about how he is trampling on the right's of Americans 1st Adm Rights.

Last Time I looked this was The United States of American home of the Free not Nazi Germany,USSR,North Korea, Red China or Cuba were they all had/have these nice little report your towns folks goon squads.

Oh and don't even start with the so-call payed Republican Folks showing up at Town Halls that rich come from the Folks on the Left.

 

[Devil505]

Where's the proof that all of these town hall debacles are being orchestrated by paid operatives?

I'll make two predictions:

1. Verifiable proof will be released within a week.

2. No matter what this proof is, it will be decried by the far right as inconclusive.

(let me expand on that a bit: If video tapes emerge, in which all the fake protesters take off their masks to reveal Michael Steele, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney & Sarah Palin, who are then handed cash for their efforts........the far right will claim that it proves nothing)
So in reality, since far righters can't be persuaded or reasoned with...the best alternative is simply to IGNORE them. (you know...like the voters have been doing for almost 4 years now) Then, we should climb up out of the sewer where they (far righters) live & let them continue to eat each other. (which they are doing an excellent job of with no outside help)

 

[Devil505]

So this begs the question to Haznut,Devil505 and the rest of you folk son the Left. If Mr. Bush did this would you al be running around screamming you r little collective heads off about how he is trampling on the right's of Americans 1st Adm Rights.

GW Bush did that & far worse, including "outing" a clandestine CIA operative in time of war for political retribution.
The USA Patriot act ,his many "signing statements" & the institution of state sponsored torture, took us perilously close to the Nazi regime you mention.

 

[Scorpion89]

GW Bush did that & far worse, including "outing" a clandestine CIA operative in time of war for political retribution.
The USA Patriot act ,his many "signing statements" & the institution of state sponsored torture, took us perilously close to the Nazi regime you mention.

Not even close first off She wasn't undercover hadn't been for many years so nice Strawman, as for the patriots Act hmm let see the Democrate were the one who sort of pushed for it in the first place oh forgot about that one huh.

 

[Scorpion89]

Hey Devil505 you want to go and report me I ****ing dare you and any of your Deminted Folks on the Left to go and report me to the White house.

But of you do then I sugegst you start wearing your Nazi Arm Band and dress in Brown Shirt and Jack Boots and start standing on the Corner of your town and take down names and report them to your local SS oh I mean Democrat Office.

 

[Scorpion89]

I'll make two predictions:

1. Verifiable proof will be released within a week.

2. No matter what this proof is, it will be decried by the far right as inconclusive.

(let me expand on that a bit: If video tapes emerge, in which all the fake protesters take off their masks to reveal Michael Steele, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney & Sarah Palin, who are then handed cash for their efforts........the far right will claim that it proves nothing)
So in reality, since far righters can't be persuaded or reasoned with...the best alternative is simply to IGNORE them (you know...like the voters have been doing for almost 4 years now), climb up out of the sewer where they live & let them eat each other. (which they are doing an excellent job of with no outside help)

Haha this is Funny do you actually believe the crap you post huh.

So let me ask you this if I went ot one of these Her Meetings and ask point blank question like why do I have to have Health Care if I choice not to, isn't it still my choice and what right does Congress have to tell me what I can and ca';t do and what part of the Const. or Bill of rights say's that if I don't Congress can fine me. So would you consider this a question out of line and would you accuse me of being a payed Republican Thug?? Considering that I don't beleive in the two party system and think that it should be challange in court as an monopoly nut that is another thread.

 

[Devil505]

Haha this is Funny do you actually believe the crap you post huh.

So let me ask you this if I went ot one of these Her Meetings and ask point blank question like why do I have to have Health Care if I choice not to, isn't it still my choice and what right does Congress have to tell me what I can and ca';t do and what part of the Const. or Bill of rights say's that if I don't Congress can fine me. So would you consider this a question out of line and would you accuse me of being a payed Republican Thug?? Considering that I don't beleive in the two party system and think that it should be challange in court as an monopoly nut that is another thread.

The question would be fine....Shouting "Just Say No" at the top of your lungs to drown out the response would be a crime.

 

[Devil505]

Hey Devil505 you want to go and report me I ****ing dare you and any of your Deminted Folks on the Left to go and report me to the White house.

But of you do then I sugegst you start wearing your Nazi Arm Band and dress in Brown Shirt and Jack Boots and start standing on the Corner of your town and take down names and report them to your local SS oh I mean Democrat Office.

Hmmm......I'll bet you know exactly where I could find the Nazi regalia, right?

I have no problem with the far right vomiting their lies & hatred all over these forums because:
1. it just hurts your chances of ever regainng any power in this country
2. You cant shout me down here & prevent the truth from coming out.

 

[Scorpion89]

Hmmm......I'll bet you know exactly where I could find the Nazi regalia, right?

Well yes I do collect allot of WWII items including some Luftwaffe stuff hell I'm trying to purchase a Fi-167 Storch.

Our you accussing me of being a Nazi because if you are I highly suggest you stop right now.