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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Oh you don't get it? You claim to be a veteran, let's see you defend this:


    So are you suggesting that military folk never said things like "haji" "raghead" or about how they were there to kill the savages?


    Really? Is this your "evidence"?






    You really are rather ignorant on things like this, I find it shameful that you look for ways to falsey accuse people who served of crimes for your politics.
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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I don't know if more than one person is showing hatred in this thread. Nevertheless, it's not like Blackwater has a untarnished record. Manslaughter Charges in Blackwater Case - WSJ.com
    with a quick google search we can find cases of a member of every branch of the military commiting manslaughter. should we condemn the entire military?
    in every major city there can easily be found a case of a cop committing manslaughter. do we condemn the entire police force?

    Sole exception would be L.A. where we all now know that promotions are given out based on the number of clean shootings of minorities the white cop has

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What I can't get is the neverbeens, seething hatred.......
    It's because it was associated to the Bush regime. Nothing more. People are too busy criticizing symptoms. And this goes for all things. Even terrorism. Even criticizing Bush for what is really a Washington problem shows a degree of ignorance from those merely concerned with political bashing.
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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Oh you don't get it? You claim to be a veteran, let's see you defend this:
    What do you mean he "claims to be?" Who are you to question him in the first place. And in the second, derogatory terms such as...

    Iraq - "raghead," or "haji"
    Somalia - "skinnies"
    Vietnam - "zippers"
    WWII - "krauts" or "japs"

    ...are terms heard in the military as well. They are frowned upon and highly unauthorized, but they do slip out of mouths occassionally. Something about being shot out upsets people and such terms rise to the surface. If Blackwater personnel used these terms openly (probably did) then they should not have because it only made the military man's job that much harder when engaging the everyday Iraqi citizen.



    But even so....what was your point?

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    with a quick google search we can find cases of a member of every branch of the military commiting manslaughter. should we condemn the entire military?
    in every major city there can easily be found a case of a cop committing manslaughter. do we condemn the entire police force?

    Sole exception would be L.A. where we all now know that promotions are given out based on the number of clean shootings of minorities the white cop has
    What is your point? Reverend made it seem as though there were a bunch of haters in this thread. I pointed out there appeared to be only one AND noted, solely as a matter of fact, that Blackwater did not have a clean record. Blackwater is a significantly smaller company than every branch of government, wouldn't you say? Thus, your comparison is entirely inadequate.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    It's because it was associated to the Bush regime. Nothing more. People are too busy criticizing symptoms. And this goes for all things. Even terrorism. Even criticizing Bush for what is really a Washington problem shows a degree of ignorance from those merely concerned with political bashing.



    yeah, it was rather retorical... I was a contractor under Clinton watch. way before it was cool.
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    Iraqis seek justice against Blackwater boss accused of 'crusade to wipe out Muslims'

    The boss of a private American security firm under investigation for murdering civilians in Iraq has been accused in court papers of seeking to wipe out Muslims.

    Blackwater founder Erik Prince ‘views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe,’ according to a former employee.

    As legal procedings began. Iraqi relatives of Blackwater's alleged victims expressed hope they could take the company to court in the US.
    They have directed an American legal team to make an attempt.

    Farid Walid, who was shot in Nisour Square two years ago during a massacre that killed 17 Iraqis, told The Times: 'Everybody here knows of cases where Blackwater guards shot innocent people without a second thought.

    'They are a symbol of the occupation. Nobody will forget. But Iraqis might think at least a little differently of America if the killers are put in prison.'

    Umm Sajjad, whose husband was allegedly shot by Blackwater guards, added: '“I was told that there was no exchange of fire or any other reason to provoke them to shoot at my husband and his colleagues.
    One, an employee for four years, claimed Prince encouraged his staff ‘to take every available opportunity to murder Iraqis.’
    Iraqis seek justice against Blackwater boss accused of 'crusade to wipe out Muslims' | Mail Online

    Here is to hoping Iraqis do get justice against such filth


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    Blackwater Founder Implicated in Murder
    A former Blackwater employee and an ex-US Marine who has worked as a security operative for the company have made a series of explosive allegations in sworn statements filed on August 3 in federal court in Virginia. The two men claim that the company's owner, Erik Prince, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals who were cooperating with federal authorities investigating the company. The former employee also alleges that Prince "views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe," and that Prince's companies "encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life."
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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I was dying to read the John Doe statements. I have found them. The first one personally witnessed some of the events. Sorry, but that ain't hearsay.


    http://ccrjustice.org/files/8%2003%2...s%20Ex%20G.pdf

    http://ccrjustice.org/files/8%2003%2...s%20Ex%20H.pdf
    I don't understand what you're saying. Nobody is claiming that the entirety of the statements are hearsay. I think it's completely plausible that excessive force was frequently used, that illegal weapons were used, etc. What I took issue with was the focus of this thread - the claim that the guy who runs blackwater had someone murdered. There's absolutely no non-hearsay evidence to support that claim.

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