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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post


    bitter former employees ring a bell darling
    I have never read/heard of a former employee making this type of allegation before. But...okay.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    I don't know if the link Will provided shows the motion in opposition to dismiss the case. The link I clicked on brought me to a "forbidden" site. But here it is. http://ccrjustice.org/files/8%2003%2...%20Dismiss.pdf

    It provides some background on the John Doe people. I'll wait to see what falls out from this.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    I'm not saying this should be utterly dismissed, ignored, and not investigated. But people making out and out claims that they're guilty, that this is definitely true, that they need to be put in jail, etc is all premature and is predicated on nothing but their own personal hatred and dislike for the organization and nothing to do with the law or justice. And those making it out as if this is dead on proof that something bad went down is either ignorant of the law, intentionally attempting to be misleading, or are just completely and utterly blindly hyper partisan.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm not saying this should be utterly dismissed, ignored, and not investigated. But people making out and out claims that they're guilty, that this is definitely true, that they need to be put in jail, etc is all premature and is predicated on nothing but their own personal hatred and dislike for the organization and nothing to do with the law or justice. And those making it out as if this is dead on proof that something bad went down is either ignorant of the law, intentionally attempting to be misleading, or are just completely and utterly blindly hyper partisan.
    It means they would NEVER be able to get on the jury should this go to trial.

    I understand your frustration. I think when people don't like someone or something (a company), it is only natural that they will think the worst of them/it in cases like this. What I don't like is when the facts play out in a court setting, and people argue about the verdict. Of course there are bad verdicts (O.J. Simpson ). But people disregarding the assessment made by a group of people who have heard all the evidence in the case annoys the crap out of me (Scooter Libby). We all also know that William Jefferson and Ron Blagovich (I know I haven't spelled his name correctly) are guilty as sin.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The US Attorney would not comment on his involvement, where did it say he was not involved? Who do you think would be involved in this case, Orly Taint?
    Asked specifically about whether there is a criminal investigation into Prince regarding the murder allegations and other charges, Roth said: "We would not be able to comment on what we are or are not doing in regards to any possible investigation involving an uncharged individual."

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    It means they would NEVER be able to get on the jury should this go to trial.

    I understand your frustration. I think when people don't like someone or something (a company), it is only natural that they will think the worst of them/it in cases like this. What I don't like is when the facts play out in a court setting, and people argue about the verdict. Of course there are bad verdicts (O.J. Simpson ). But people disregarding the assessment made by a group of people who have heard all the evidence in the case annoys the crap out of me (Scooter Libby). We all also know that William Jefferson and Ron Blagovich (I know I haven't spelled his name correctly) are guilty as sin.
    I understand a bit about judging someone guilty prior to it happening. Larry Craig is one example of that on a republican side, Jefferson on the other side. They were about as red handed as red handed can be.

    Two people saying they've heard other people say that something bad happened is hardly comparable.

    What bugs me is that some of the people doing it are the exact same types that if the situation was flipped would be flaming the **** out of anyone saying things like "he needs to be thrown in jail" at this point and on top of that attempt to make it out as if it is something that represents ALL conservatives.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I understand a bit about judging someone guilty prior to it happening. Larry Craig is one example of that on a republican side, Jefferson on the other side. They were about as red handed as red handed can be.

    Two people saying they've heard other people say that something bad happened is hardly comparable.

    What bugs me is that some of the people doing it are the exact same types that if the situation was flipped would be flaming the **** out of anyone saying things like "he needs to be thrown in jail" at this point and on top of that attempt to make it out as if it is something that represents ALL conservatives.
    LOL That's human too.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Asked specifically about whether there is a criminal investigation into Prince regarding the murder allegations and other charges, Roth said: "We would not be able to comment on what we are or are not doing in regards to any possible investigation involving an uncharged individual."
    That is an interesting statement. One of my friends is a US Attorney. I'm going to ask him.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The story is based on sworn testimony from multiple sources, this is not rumor or conjecture.
    Without corroborating evidence all testimony is hearsay.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Without corroborating evidence all testimony is hearsay.
    There are hearsay exceptions, yes? Rule 803.Hearsay Exceptions- Availability of Declarant Immaterial.

    How do you know there's no corroborating evidence?

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