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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I understand that rationale. I will wait to see how this plays out. I think it's unlikely that someone would make allegations as extreme as this without having something upon which to base them. I don't have strong feelings on this subject matter.



    I think it would be unlikley someone would make a public accusation without either having something, or being a kook.


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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    At least with that guy, we could make an assessment on his credibility. We don't know who these John Doe people are. Time will tell.
    They are federal witnesses under protection. Why? Because Blackwater has already killed other witnesses.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The story is based on sworn testimony from multiple sources, this is not rumor or conjecture.
    Actually, it is COMPLETELY based upon rumor and conjecture. That isn't the legal meaning of the term "implicated."

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

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    The Nation cannot independently verify the identities of the two individuals, their roles at Blackwater or what motivated them to provide sworn testimony in these civil cases. Both individuals state that they have previously cooperated with federal prosecutors conducting a criminal inquiry into Blackwater.

    "It's a pending investigation, so we cannot comment on any matters in front of a Grand Jury or if a Grand Jury even exists on these matters," John Roth, the spokesperson for the US Attorney's office in the District of Columbia, told The Nation. "It would be a crime if we did that." Asked specifically about whether there is a criminal investigation into Prince regarding the murder allegations and other charges, Roth said: "We would not be able to comment on what we are or are not doing in regards to any possible investigation involving an uncharged individual."
    There is NO confirmation, NONE, that this is a criminal investigation. It is a CIVIL MATTER. Any suggestion, by Will or anyone else, that there are federal charges pending, that a grand jury exists, or that a criminal investigation is ongoing are simply spurious and without basis.

    These individuals are NOT, as Will has stated, under FEDERAL PROTECTION. Their names were sealed at the request of their civil litigator.

    Learn to read.

    This is akin to the civil lawsuit filed against Bill & Hilary Clinton, alleging their complicity in the death of Vince Foster in the Whitewater matter.

    As you'll remember, no charges were EVER filed against the Clintons, and every single investigation by a law enforcement agency found that Foster's death was a suicide.
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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    From the OP:



    There is NO confirmation, NONE, that this is a criminal investigation. It is a CIVIL MATTER.

    These individuals are NOT, as Will has stated, under FEDERAL PROTECTION. Their names were sealed at the request of their civil litigator.

    Learn to read.
    US Attorneys are not involved in civil cases, and eyewitness testimony is neither rumor nor conjecture.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    US Attorneys are not involved in civil cases, and eyewitness testimony is neither rumor nor conjecture.
    The U.S. Attorney is not involved, AT ALL, per his statement, which I quoted in my response to you.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The U.S. Attorney is not involved, AT ALL, per his statement, which I quoted in my response to you.
    The US Attorney would not comment on his involvement, where did it say he was not involved? Who do you think would be involved in this case, Orly Taint?

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    They are federal witnesses under protection. Why? Because Blackwater has already killed other witnesses.
    Proof for yet another accusation?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    US Attorneys are not involved in civil cases, and eyewitness testimony is neither rumor nor conjecture.
    Except its hearsay, which, by its very definition, is rumor.

    Jesus Christ, perhaps actually learn a bit about the topic you're discussing before making your idiotic comments and statements. These are in no way shape or form any more credible then me saying that I heard from a friend that Obama molests baby goats and 14 year old boys in the White House on a weekly basis.

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    Re: Blackwater founder implicated in murder

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I understand that rationale. I will wait to see how this plays out. I think it's unlikely that someone would make allegations as extreme as this without having something upon which to base them. I don't have strong feelings on this subject matter.


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