Facts Are Stubborn Things

Re: Turn in your co-workers @whitehouse.gov

Still didn't see anything about turning anyone in.

And the right keeps supporting lies. Gotta love the "shot myself in the foot" strategy of the conservatives.

formerroadie said:

And the right keeps supporting lies. Gotta love the "shot myself in the foot" strategy of the conservatives.

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How about a little substance instead of blank accusations, how about a fact for once supporting your assertation that the right is lying about healthcare. Think you can manage that?

LaMidRighter said:

How about a little substance instead of blank accusations, how about a fact for once supporting your assertation that the right is lying about healthcare. Think you can manage that?

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formeroadie, you will find....well you will find out...
you are already getting a good wiff of his partisanship

Former has not read the Bill or even studied the details.. just like his Messiah, comes up a little short on substance but not hot air!

BASS PLAYERS ROCK! :mrgreen:

they want to know what is being said, not who is saying it.

ConservaBill said:

Former has not read the Bill or even studied the details.. just like his Messiah, comes up a little short on substance but not hot air!

BASS PLAYERS ROCK! :mrgreen:

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Yes, I have read the bill and you have no clue what you're talking about except for the bass player part.... I happen to be one.

LaMidRighter said:

How about a little substance instead of blank accusations, how about a fact for once supporting your assertation that the right is lying about healthcare. Think you can manage that?

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It won't matter to you or any of the other righties on these boards and you know it. The lies have been debunked in a number of threads and you people still keep posting about said lies as if they are facts: i.e. that this is universal health care, it will be rationed, that you won't have a choice, etc. etc. Pick your poison. Fact is, the right is buying what the health care establishment is feeding them.

Why not just read some of the front page stories on factcheck.

FactCheck.org

These have been posted in other places. Thing is, you people don't want to listen.

formerroadie said:

It won't matter to you or any of the other righties on these boards and you know it. The lies have been debunked in a number of threads and you people still keep posting about said lies as if they are facts: i.e. that this is universal health care, it will be rationed, that you won't have a choice, etc. etc. Pick your poison. Fact is, the right is buying what the health care establishment is feeding them.

Why not just read some of the front page stories on factcheck.

FactCheck.org

These have been posted in other places. Thing is, you people don't want to listen.

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I've already been over the FactCheck mythology in another thread, bring something with substance.

Roadie.. you missed a couple parts like:

When your private insurance ends for whatever reason no insurance company may issue a new policy.. you're done and will be forced to take the .gov option. Private insurance will cease to exist.

Rationing is a FACT and alluded to numerous times and given teeth in each case... say good-bye to Granny or be prepared to carry her for the rest of her life if she falls and breaks a hip or knee... it will be a bureaucrats decision not yours and Granny's.

If you chose not to buy insurance you will be fined, and the IRS will collect it.

If you decide to pay for your own Dr. visit (if you can find a Dr stupid enough) you AND the Dr. are criminals and will be prosecuted under federal law...NOW this IS NOT in there, but one would have to assume that if the receptionist knows about it, that make 3 persons involved in a federal crime, and that would be a conspiracy under existing laws.

BUT then I guess you know all this because you tell me you've "read" the bill so none of this is news to you.