Which facts do you want honestly answered? You're making the blank assertion here, back it up.FYI, maybe some have railed on and on about what it is NOT going to do, because again your side can only engage in dishonesty about the facts.Check the entire site, it's all over these forums, I myself have addressed the history of expense in the U.S. in detail.Where has your side even addressed the core issues?
Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.
[quote=LaMidRighter;1058173900]God, where do I start... it's been a hyper-partisan cluster**** of propaganda and misinformation from conservative groups and GOP reps and Senators.Care to state what's mis-leading that you disagree with, the opposition has pretty much been spot on from what I see. Give me one specific thing the opposition got wrong and we can discuss it, otherwise this looks like a defensive talking point.
If you have one that has attempted to engage in an honest pro/con debate offering workable modifications within the framework of the plan, I'd love to hear about him/her.
But, okay, here's one for starters:
CPR Administers Bad Facts, Again
How about I post others where everyone can see them and discuss?The latest ad from the group Conservatives for Patients’ Rights claims that "new rules could hike your health insurance premiums 95 percent." That’s misleading.
The claim in the ad refers to only 5 percent of Americans who have health insurance – those who buy it on their own.
The claim comes from an analysis by a group that advocates for insurance carriers that sell policies in the individual market, among other areas.
That analysis also doesn’t take into consideration several elements of leading congressional legislation that other experts say will keep premium costs down – and in fact, lower premiums for some. Other independent studies show premium costs decreasing on average for Americans that currently have health coverage.
It’s not true that any of the health care overhaul measures that have been approved by committees in Congress would add "a trillion to the federal deficit," as the ad says. The Senate bill would add roughly $597 billion over 10 years, and the House bill that was approved by the Ways and Means Committee in mid-July would add a much smaller $239 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
On the other hand, it is perfectly acceptable to point out a provision or amendment in a specific bill that is in currently with a specific committee. There is no overall grand bill to speak of, nor can we even discuss this. If you take one singular issue, well that could be in one House committee, but not in another Senate committee.
I'm going to be charitable and call this person a lady when there is another more accurate but derogatory name for her type on the tip of my tongue. She's a G.D. liar in the first degree. Right off the bat she says you will be able to keep your present health care plan. Yes you can but in certain circumstances, and then only for a short time. Now I did't cobble together different parts of the bill. I listened to Der Fuhrer in Chief Obama in his own words and aI am continuously searching portions of it as questions arise. Obama wants a system that will ration health care, create massively long waiting periods before you can receive care, force everyone on to the plan at some point in time, allow ILLEGAL ALIENS THAT SHOULD BE DEPORTED TO RECEIVE FREE CARE, and like Oregon provide for Assisted suicide rather than prolong the life of people who the commission deems as useless eaters.
It's all there all you have to do is read the stinking thing and you'll see it for your self.
Good luck and keep the pressure on the Liberals to end this Reign of Terror on the best health care system on earth.