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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    PeteEU,

    The GOP cannot stop ANYTHING the Dems want to do, the "Party of No" is a myth perpetuated by those that realize the Dem's aren't capable of accomplishing many of their signature "plans" and are looking to shift the blame.
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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    At the moment, the economy needs crack cocaine.
    It's OD'd.

    Besides, those buyers will be paying off their new cars for 3 or 4 years, who buys cars with cash?
    More than likely, but what is the significance of that?

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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Secondly the opposition to this is going against the very principle of the Republican party.. I guess the Dems should have called it a tax cut for those that buy a new car.. what would the Republican's have done then? And yes it is exactly the same principle, you put money in the hands of the people to buy stuff that in turn stimulates the economy..
    It's not a tax cut when you didn't pay that much in taxes in the first place. It becomes a welfare handout with borrowed money that has to be paid back.

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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    More than likely, but what is the significance of that?
    Actually the trend in the U.S. has been ever increasing loan terms (now 5+ years) and not owning the cars for more than 2 years give or take.

    That's another reason to be against this program as the old over supplied car market needs to be worked through before new cars can be introduced.
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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    It's not a tax cut when you didn't pay that much in taxes in the first place. It becomes a welfare handout with borrowed money that has to be paid back.
    Thats exactly right.
    One you cut taxes to $0, anything you goive back is welfare.

    And, the $ you're giving back had to come from someone elses' pocket.

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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Most of the time when Republicans object to a Democratic sponsored program, it is not because they have philosophical differences in the program, it is not because they have a better idea, it is simply because Republicans cannot allow Democrats to get credit for anything that works. That's why Cash for Clunkers is getting stuck, it works and the Right WILL NOT ALLOW Democrats or the president to get credit for it.
    Try looking at the facts rather than making them up to suit your leftist socialist agenda and then repeating them as if they were true and came from a reliable source . Calling the Cash for Clunker plot a success is a lie. The plan was to spur the sales of American car company vehicles but the fact is most car sales are going to imports, and the so-called Clunkers are not Clunkers at all they are late model cars that get as few as TWO MPG LESS than the cars they are being traded in on and the amount of tax payer money being spent and the extra cost will never be made up in savings over the life of the cars. So before you continue the Obama lies get the facts, and you and the rest of the Granola Liberals won't look so ignorant.
    We are hearing more and more about the White House arm twisting of Liberals forcing them to go along with Socialist ideas and we also are hearing Democrat members of the House and Senate saying they don't give a damn what the people in their districts or States want because they and Obama know what's best because the people are to stupid to decide for themselves.
    The fact is the average guy on the street who pays attention and cares about his family's future knows one hell of a lot more than any elected wonk who follows the party line in the usual Liberal go along to get along mode.

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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    If all the clunkers are destroyed how are the working poor supposed to get to work? What is going to happen to the price of a used car?
    Last edited by sazerac; 08-04-09 at 04:50 PM.

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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    the white house is refusing to release data concerning the clunker program

    Obama administration withholds data on clunkers - Yahoo! News

    it's probably because 6 in 10 new purchases are not american brands, they're hondas, toyotas and hyundais

    also ford, which received no federal bailout, is outperforming naturally govt motors

    another problem in the senate is they must pass on the congressional bill as written, to the letter

    otherwise, the legislation would have to go to conference, and the house is out on recess...

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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    Damn, Pete. Why you gotta be so hard on 'em? (wink)

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    Re: Senate To Put Brakes On Clunkers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the white house is refusing to release data concerning the clunker program

    Obama administration withholds data on clunkers - Yahoo! News

    it's probably because 6 in 10 new purchases are not american brands, they're hondas, toyotas and hyundais

    also ford, which received no federal bailout, is outperforming naturally govt motors

    another problem in the senate is they must pass on the congressional bill as written, to the letter

    otherwise, the legislation would have to go to conference, and the house is out on recess...
    You may be onto something here. I've wondered the same thing, i.e., what type of vehicles are being purchased.

    When I first heard the news that the top selling car was the Ford Focus, I damned near fell off my chair laughing! Not that it was an American car that was being purchased under the program. Lord knows we need that incentive. But because it wasn't GM - the one American auto giant that could really use a boost in car sales.

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