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    Re: 13 Republicans Voted to Allow Single-Payer Systems in States

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Let's see if I have this right. Thirteen republicans voted for an amendment sponsored by the very liberal Dennis Kucinich, and one which promotes progressive ideals, yet they are getting attacked for it anyway?

    Good grief. In any sort of sensible world, a true liberal would be thanking them for their vote.
    Or using a modicum of critical thought to try to figure out why they voted that way.
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    Re: 13 Republicans Voted to Allow Single-Payer Systems in States

    Oh, I'm glad they had some sense of justice for their states, but in terms of how they are reacting to proposed Health Care in general, they are hypocrites.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: 13 Republicans Voted to Allow Single-Payer Systems in States

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    The question is are these 13 republicans guys who have railed against Obama for "socialism" and about the government taking over health care. If you have quotes from them saying such yes that would be hypocritical. Another thing you missed is the vote the other day. Several republicans have come out against Medicare calling it a failed program and bashing on it. So one democrat called their bluff and introduced a bill to kill Medicare. Everyone in congress voted against it including the republicans. This just goes to show this is political show its more about hurting Obama than protecting Americans.
    Amen, this was exactly my thoughts. It is a tireless rant for Republicans to continually whine about "Socialism" and such, when they themselves support these very same programs. In 2003 the Republican party had control of House, Senate, and White House, yet they did not end that socialism called Medicare. Worse, the party of fiscal responsibility provided a bill that had massive cost increases, yet provided absolutely no plan to pay. Hence the defecit expands, the debt increases. As if that was not enough, they just could not stop there. There whole plan was a gift to private insurance (Medicare payment lock-ins) and gift to pharmaceuticals (forbid the largest insurer to negotiate prices).

    As I have pointed out several times, why don't these same Republicans truly end all this socialism we have? When can we expect public education to end? State colleges and universities to be closed? Public libraries to shut down (most of them obviously never use them anyways, what with nothing but books there). I seriously want to know why Republicans time and time again do not end public education? Why do they continue with this socialism?

    Why do we still have police and fire? Why not use the free market to provide for private contractors?

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    Re: 13 Republicans Voted to Allow Single-Payer Systems in States

    Is it hypocrisy that I oppose Roe v. Wade but support legalized abortions?

    Only if one doesn't possess the mental faculties to comprehend what anti-federalism and small government conservativism really is.

    I like these 13 republicans very much for doing the correct thing and supporting small federal government authority over the states.

    The real pity for the Republican party is that they don't have more of these people around.

    The real pity for the Democratic party is that this befuddles them and they can't figure out why these guys did it.

    The real pity for America is that of all of our elected officials, apparently only the minority actually get it.
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    Re: 13 Republicans Voted to Allow Single-Payer Systems in States

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Amen, this was exactly my thoughts. It is a tireless rant for Republicans to continually whine about "Socialism" and such, when they themselves support these very same programs. In 2003 the Republican party had control of House, Senate, and White House, yet they did not end that socialism called Medicare. Worse, the party of fiscal responsibility provided a bill that had massive cost increases, yet provided absolutely no plan to pay. Hence the defecit expands, the debt increases. As if that was not enough, they just could not stop there. There whole plan was a gift to private insurance (Medicare payment lock-ins) and gift to pharmaceuticals (forbid the largest insurer to negotiate prices).

    As I have pointed out several times, why don't these same Republicans truly end all this socialism we have? When can we expect public education to end? State colleges and universities to be closed? Public libraries to shut down (most of them obviously never use them anyways, what with nothing but books there). I seriously want to know why Republicans time and time again do not end public education? Why do they continue with this socialism?

    Why do we still have police and fire? Why not use the free market to provide for private contractors?
    You hit the nail on the head my friend. Totally hypocritical. It's like Palin saying she's a free market capitalist as she sends checks to every household in the state from the oil company.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: 13 Republicans Voted to Allow Single-Payer Systems in States

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    You hit the nail on the head my friend. Totally hypocritical. It's like Palin saying she's a free market capitalist as she sends checks to every household in the state from the oil company.
    Let's not forget she then railed about "Socialism". This of course was all brought about by one comment Obama made about progressive taxes, something that even McCain was on record, on video in fact, supporting. Like I say, these people have to be born without the shame gene, no other explanation as to how they can so shamelessly lie and be such shameless hypocrites. But then when revenues drop and she can no longer send out the big fat checks, when she has an actual budget to deal with, she quits. Yet here where are arguing with people that think this is someone who is qualified to be President.

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    Re: 13 Republicans Voted to Allow Single-Payer Systems in States

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    You hit the nail on the head my friend. Totally hypocritical. It's like Palin saying she's a free market capitalist as she sends checks to every household in the state from the oil company.
    Did you really just drag Sarah Palin into this thread?

    We really need to have a corollary to Godwin's Law here.

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    Re: 13 Republicans Voted to Allow Single-Payer Systems in States

    It ain't rocket science. This is a Republican attempt to comprimise on the bill, but at the same time not attaching their names to a falling star. It's also a Dem attempt to not have their name dragged though the mud, plus remaining loyal to the party. When/if the states decided to adopt a one payer system and it flops--and it will flop--they can just blame the states.

    I can hear it now, "Hey, we tried to pass health reform, but the states dicked it up. Sorry, we tried. Next?"
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    Re: 13 Republicans Voted to Allow Single-Payer Systems in States

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    Woops. I guess them small government conservatives aren't so small government when in comes to their home states.
    What ever gave you the idea that conservatives were for small government? They've been peddling that bull**** lie for years.

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    This thread

    I laughed when I saw Republicans responding to every post by a democrat but democrats only responding to each other and ignoring Republican posts. I guess the truth of the matter is they don't want to get into a discussion, but rather just build up straw men and foam at their mouth about Sarah Palin... which would be completely irrelevant, but meet the partisan ends they are trying to reach.

    This is the second hyper-partisan thread I have seen in the last day. I'm already sick of them.
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