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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Nothing actually quite surprising. He may have been pressured into this some time ago after being confronted with something we are not aware of. Quite a few prominent mob members turned out to be informants. The most famous was Jimmy the Weasel Fratianno who eventually turned into state's witness for one reason; it was found there was a contract out for him for being an informant.
    James Whitey Bulger, who Jack Nicholson's character in the The Departed was modeled after, was a longtime informant.

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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Too bad Reverend Wright wasn't and FBI informant.
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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Nothing actually quite surprising. He may have been pressured into this some time ago after being confronted with something we are not aware of.
    Like the fact that he could have been sent to jail dozens of times for his threats and incitement to violence?
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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Like the fact that he could have been sent to jail dozens of times for his threats and incitement to violence?
    I don't really know anything about this guy but has he really done that?
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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I don't really know anything about this guy but has he really done that?
    Hal Turner in His Own Words

    November 9, 2007: Under the headline,"DEAR JEWS AND OTHER NON-CHRISTIANS AS WE APPROACH THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, PRACTICE TOLERANCE….," Turner wrote: "Anyone who goes after Christian seasonal celebrations will be made to answer to us... We don't want to have to show up at anyones [sic] house as they're coming home or leaving, to beat the hell out of them on their own front lawn; we don't want to have to grab anyone on their lunch break at work and break their legs, crack their skull open with a baseball bat, or burn down their home or office. We certainly don't want to have to take up sniper positions outside quiet residential areas in the dark of night with high powered rifles and put a rifle shot through anyone resting comfortably in their home. Whether or not any of that happens this year is solely up to you. Leave us alone and we'll leave you alone. Pick on us --- and we may feel compelled to f--king destroy you."

    October 24, 2007: "And I think that we have arrived at a time when one or more of these 44 (later amended to 52) defiant U.S. Senators needs to get cracked in the skull with a baseball bat, needs to get a bullet through the brain. They have betrayed us AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN. IT IS TIME FOR SOMEONE TO PAY A PRICE AN EXAMPLE TO THE OTHERS.…"
    October 22, 2007: Under the heading, "Chief of International Monetary Fund Warns of U.S Dollar collapse," Turner wrote, "I have all the home addresses of folks in Congress, the Senate, the President's Cabinet, as well as all the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, all the jew [sic] Boards of Directors of the biggest banks and investment houses in the country. . . . where they live, where they go to temple. . . . I intend to bring such a **** storm down on these people that history will record what happens for all eternity! When these people are finally made an example of, others throughout eternity will dread doing what they did fearing the same result. If I play my hand right, what I achieve could make the Holocaust look like child's play."


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    On December 6, 2006, Turner announced on his website:

    "We may have to ASSASSINATE some of the people you elect on Nov. 7! This could be your LAST ELECTION CHANCE, to save this Republic... Sorry to have to be so blunt, but the country is in mortal danger from our present government and our liberty is already near dead because of this government. If you are too stupid to turn things around with your vote, there are people out here like me who are willing to turn things around with guns, force and violence. We hope our method does not become necessary.
    On April 4, 2008, Turner encouraged violence against Lexington, Massachusetts school superintendent Paul Ash for establishing a new curriculum supporting gays and lesbians. On his website, he stated:

    "I advocate parents using FORCE AND VIOLENCE against Superintendent Paul B. Ash as a method of defending the health and safety of school children presently being endangered through his politically-correct indoctrination into deadly, disease-ridden sodomite lifestyles."
    Two months later, on June 2, 2009, Turner posted on his blog

    "Let me be the first to say this plainly: These judges deserve to be killed. Their blood will replenish the tree of liberty. A small price to pay to assure freedom for millions."

    The next day Turner posted information on how to find Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook and Judges Richard Posner and William Baue.
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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    WTF, why wasn't he arrested for that crap?

    He is definitely goading people into committing violence.
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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    WTF, why wasn't he arrested for that crap?

    He is definitely goading people into committing violence.
    Turner actually was indicted and arrested for advocating assassinations on his radio show. That was when it was discovered that he was also an FBI informant.
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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Like the fact that he could have been sent to jail dozens of times for his threats and incitement to violence?
    No argument there. I was merely pointing out that the FBI has a long history in turning the blind eye towards the very people they are suppose to be arresting, so long as they can gather information. Question here is what exactly did this loser really provide them? If he provided them with actionable intelligence that stopped violence, led to arrests and convictions, then maybe this was the best course...maybe. But I do question whether this was another case of the FBI being more interested in data mining than actually enforcing laws.

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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Turner actually was indicted and arrested for advocating assassinations on his radio show. That was when it was discovered that he was also an FBI informant.
    I skimmed through the article and saw some of those things.

    Are they going to actually charge him now that they know he is an informant?
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    Re: White supremacist radio host Hal Turner was an FBI informant

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I skimmed through the article and saw some of those things.

    Are they going to actually charge him now that they know he is an informant?
    They should. I don't give a damn what the circumstances are. It is a criminal act to vocally advocate assassinations.
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