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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    In theory, a soda tax is wrong because people should be as free as possible to purchase a service if the service only effects them. (when there is no negative externalities)

    However... if we continue to supply healthcare (which EVERYONE pays for) since someone's poor health choice hurts us all, there should be a mechanism to put it more in a market equalibrium.

    And since I am against the current healthcare plans by the Democrats as well as medicare and medicaid I suppose I can still stick to being against a soda tax.

    However, if healthcare costs are payed for more collectively, then it would only make sense for someone's health choices to be made more collectively as well. This is because an individual who buys soda does not privately pay for the negative health effects on their own.
    There would need to be a soda tax so we are not all harmed by the consumer's choice.

    so... to link this to the thread, if a soda tax reduces obesiety, and we all pay for someone's obesiety with higher taxes from more healthcare costs, then a tax to reduce obesiety makes sense.

    I am curious what everyone thinks about this thought.
    They never pay for the negative affects on their own anyway. Healthcare costs go up because of people like them and we all pay. It's like people who drive SUV's. They drive up gas prices for the rest of us. They act like it only affects their pocket book, but that is bull****.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You do realize the American Revolution was started by a tax on tea right? Why would we want to go back to arbitrary and excessive taxation like that again? I say anyone in government that wants more taxes for these types of reasons should be tarred and feathered in classic fashion.
    No, that was taxation without representation issues. In other words, those people could not elect the people that passed the tea tax. What the stupid tea baggers didn't get is their name was retarded. They have representation and those representatives pass laws to tax them.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Does this Soda tax include Diet Sodas?
    I hope so cuz those are worse.
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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Absolutely.

    We need cigerrette style taxes on:

    Anything with HFCS in it
    All red meats
    All shellfish
    All pastries
    Any food that is fried
    Any fruit juices including any additives
    Anything containing alcohol
    Any bread outside of 100% whole wheat
    Eggs
    Pork
    Coffee
    Actually go with any food containing additional sugar or contains any caffine.

    I mean, they all are bad for you in some way shape or form. Everything that isn't a vegetable (except for potatoes, we can tax those, they're extremely high stachy that leads to obesity) or a fruit should be taxed on a similar rate to cigerettes. I mean, its for your own good

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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Absolutely.

    We need cigerrette style taxes on:

    Anything with HFCS in it
    All red meats
    All shellfish
    All pastries
    Any food that is fried
    Any fruit juices including any additives
    Anything containing alcohol
    Any bread outside of 100% whole wheat
    Eggs
    Pork
    Coffee
    Actually go with any food containing additional sugar or contains any caffine.

    I mean, they all are bad for you in some way shape or form. Everything that isn't a vegetable (except for potatoes, we can tax those, they're extremely high stachy that leads to obesity) or a fruit should be taxed on a similar rate to cigerettes. I mean, its for your own good
    It will be a cold day in hell before they tax my freedom fries!

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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Absolutely.

    We need cigerrette style taxes on:

    Anything with HFCS in it
    All red meats
    All shellfish
    All pastries
    Any food that is fried
    Any fruit juices including any additives
    Anything containing alcohol
    Any bread outside of 100% whole wheat
    Eggs
    Pork
    Coffee
    Actually go with any food containing additional sugar or contains any caffine.

    I mean, they all are bad for you in some way shape or form. Everything that isn't a vegetable (except for potatoes, we can tax those, they're extremely high stachy that leads to obesity) or a fruit should be taxed on a similar rate to cigerettes. I mean, its for your own good
    Hey man even veggies are loaded with toxic substances, I mean they produce their own chemical pesticides.

    We have to tax veggies.
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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    I hope so cuz those are worse.
    Only an excessive amount.


    But if you consume almost anything in a large amount there will be negative effects.


    I don't see how they are "worse" though.
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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You do realize the American Revolution was started by a tax on tea right? Why would we want to go back to arbitrary and excessive taxation like that again? I say anyone in government that wants more taxes for these types of reasons should be tarred and feathered in classic fashion.
    thats an intellegent way to go by this arguement. just stop the thought proscess after the word "tax" for a specific product.

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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I don't see how they are "worse" though.
    This link explains it to some degree.

    Is Diet Soda Worse Than Regular Soda? - Associated Content

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    Re: CDC Chief: Soda Tax Could Combat Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    lol, the other day I bought 'sugar free' apple juice and couldn't help but laugh at the label that said sugar... 48g
    Eeven without added sugars, a lot of fruits have natural sugars - hence why "sugar free" can't always be "no sugar at all."
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