German Police: 13 Migrant Sex Crimes in Two Days

[zimmer]

[h=2]Rash of migrant-linked attacks continues after poll finds German women no longer feel safe[/h]
German Police: 13 Migrant Sex Crimes in Two Days | LifeZette

German women can thank Obama.

In addition:

Germany: 2,125 Sexually Assaulted by Migrants Across All 16 States in 2016

"We have to presume that many of those crimes will never be fully investigated," German Federal Crime Police Office president Holger Münch said.

Munch admitted these crimes appeared to be connected with the influx of refugees into Germany last year.

"There is a connection between the emergence of this phenomenon and the rapid migration in 2015," he said.

Incidences of sexual assault have increased in the country since more than a million migrants from the Middle East, Africa and Asia were allowed to enter. The attacks are done either by individuals or gangs.

XYEinzelfall claims the figures they released, which are based on police press releases, represent only a fraction of the actual number of attacks because the police do not give press releases for every case. In Vienna alone, there were 647 cases of rape, but only 15 were reported.

Germany: 2,125 Sexually Assaulted by Migrants Across All 16 States in 2016 | Gospelherald.com

 

[madman]

German women can thank Obama.

Great! another fake news site

 

[Praxas]

German women can thank Obama.

In addition:

Wow obama is so powerful he even controls German immigration laws :roll:

 

[RetiredUSN]

Wow obama is so powerful he even controls German immigration laws :roll:

No, he's stupid enough to want Americans to follow suit.

 

[Praxas]

No, he's stupid enough to want Americans to follow suit.

That wasn't the comment mr usn. You're giving the navy a bad name, try to focus.

 

[zimmer]

Wow obama is so powerful he even controls German immigration laws :roll:

Obama's failure in the region caused the tsunami to flood Europe.

 

[Praxas]

Obama's failure in the region caused the tsunami to flood Europe.

Obama has nothing to do with German immigration zimmy.

 

[RetiredUSN]

That wasn't the comment mr usn. You're giving the navy a bad name, try to focus.

You are right, it was a antithesis or parallel to your own stupid comment.

Try again when you understand the subtle variations in humor.

 

[Mr Person]

German women can thank Obama.

In addition:

We're supposed to reject established liberal media like the New York Times as "biased" or "fake news", but "LifeZette" and "The Gospel Herald" are to be trusted?

 

[Mr Person]

Obama's failure in the region caused the tsunami to flood Europe.

Obama has nothing to do with German immigration zimmy.

No, you see, in 2000, he should have built a Time Machine so he could go to 2013 and see whether a rebel group in Syria decided to become a terrorist group and establish an Islamic Caliphate using land from multiple countries, then he should have popped back to 2003 and stopped Bush from ordering the Iraq invasion. That way, the region would not have destabalized and ISIS couldn't have broken out of Syria.

OBAMMMMMAAAAA!

 

[zimmer]

We're supposed to reject established liberal media like the New York Times as "biased" or "fake news", but "LifeZette" and "The Gospel Herald" are to be trusted?

You did read the sources cited making the claims?

Of course not. You looked at the title and closed your mind like a good Lib.

 

[Mr Person]

We're supposed to reject established liberal media like the New York Times as "biased" or "fake news", but "LifeZette" and "The Gospel Herald" are to be trusted?

You did read the sources cited making the claims? Of course not. You looked at the title and closed your mind like a good Lib.

I've seen you reject sources that made claims because you said they were liberal rags and you didn't read them. So, I'm asking you point blank: why do you trust LifeZette and The Gospel Herald?

I'm curious to hear what wisdom and insight you might have on the credibility of media sources, and on why these particular sources are credible.

 

[DA60]

Yet another apparent Muslim hatred forum.

Yuch.


All religions have their 'bad apples'

Here are two Christian ones:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

 

[Nap]

Yet another apparent Muslim hatred forum.

Yuch.


All religions have their 'bad apples'

Here are two Christian ones:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylann_Roof

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian, He was agnostic and said that science was his religion.

What leads you to believe Dylan Roof is a Christian? He committed mass murder in a church, I highly doubt he was a Christian.

I'm not saying there aren't examples of Christians that have committed terrible acts but just picking random mass murderers and trying to call them Christians to fit your narrative is not being honest.

 

[Mr Person]

Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian, He was agnostic and said that science was his religion.

What leads you to believe Dylan Roof is a Christian? He committed mass murder in a church, I highly doubt he was a Christian.

I'm not saying there aren't examples of Christians that have committed terrible acts but just picking random mass murderers and trying to call them Christians to fit your narrative is not being honest.

Roof was a Lutheran Church member.

South Carolina Lutheran Pastor: Dylann Roof Was Church Member, His Family Prays For Victims | The Huffington Post

McVeigh was raised Roman Catholic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh




Seriously, though, all the guy said was that all religions have their bad apples. It's true. For my first trick, consider the fact that America is roughly 70% Christian (all denominations aggregated). There are 1,400,000 violent crimes and 14,000 homicides (actually murders, I think, but don't have the FBI stat link handy) committed each year. Do we know that 70% of those were committed by Christians? No, but probably something like that.

If that doesn't do it for you, consider the massive and disgusting child rape scandal in the Roman Catholic Church and the many (hundreds? thousands?) of years of cover-up that protected, and perhaps still does protect, it.




There are bad apples of all religions.




The only real difference is that there isn't any major organization of Christian Terrorists. For some reason, some people take this as license to ignore crimes committed by Christians as individual acts by insane or bad people, while treating bad acts committed by muslims as reflecting on the religion as a whole.

Don't take my word for it. Just look at all the threads here that start with an OP about a single crime or handful of crimes committed by "muslims", which use those crimes as a basis for ranting against allowing in refugees and the like. Start with this thread as an example. It alleges thirteen sex crimes by "migrants" and uses that to attack Germany's immigration program.

Then look at the lack of threads that start with one of the million plus violent crimes committed in the US by Christians each year and then try to use that to say something is fundamentally wrong with Christianity.

 

[Nap]

Roof was a Lutheran Church member.

South Carolina Lutheran Pastor: Dylann Roof Was Church Member, His Family Prays For Victims | The Huffington Post

McVeigh was raised Roman Catholic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh




Seriously, though, all the guy said was that all religions have their bad apples. It's true. For my first trick, consider the fact that America is roughly 70% Christian (all denominations aggregated). There are 1,400,000 violent crimes and 14,000 homicides (actually murders, I think, but don't have the FBI stat link handy) committed each year. Do we know that 70% of those were committed by Christians? No, but probably something like that.

If that doesn't do it for you, consider the massive and disgusting child rape scandal in the Roman Catholic Church and the many (hundreds? thousands?) of years of cover-up that protected, and perhaps still does protect, it.




There are bad apples of all religions.




The only real difference is that there isn't any major organization of Christian Terrorists. For some reason, some people take this as license to ignore crimes committed by Christians as individual acts by insane or bad people, while treating bad acts committed by muslims as reflecting on the religion as a whole.

Don't take my word for it. Just look at all the threads here that start with an OP about a single crime or handful of crimes committed by "muslims", which use those crimes as a basis for ranting against allowing in refugees and the like. Start with this thread as an example. It alleges thirteen sex crimes by "migrants" and uses that to attack Germany's immigration program.

Then look at the lack of threads that start with one of the million plus violent crimes committed in the US by Christians each year and then try to use that to say something is fundamentally wrong with Christianity.

If you review my post you would see that I clearly stated there were valid examples of Christians committing acts of violence. It appears I was wrong on Dylan Roof so I will concede that but your own link on Tim said he lost faith or rather never really picked it up, that he didn't believe in hell and that science was his religion.

As for your stats, how do we know that the 30% non Christians aren't disproportionately represented?

Blacks committed 52 percent of homicides between 1980 and 2008, despite composing just 13 percent of the population. Across the same timeframe, whites committed 45 percent of homicides while composing 77% of the population, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

Link: 7 Statistics You Need To Know About Black-On-Black Crime | Daily Wire

Conservative source, so not sure on how credible those stats are. The premise is the same though, just because 70% of the nation is Christian doesn't mean that 70% of the crime is done by Christians.

I would also argue that this country is not 70% Christian, and would also say that many that profess to be Christian do not apply the faith to their lifestyle (myself included). Many of the biggest hypocrites I have ever met, sat across from me in a church pew. This is one of the reasons I haven't been to church in over a decade.

 

[Mr Person]

As for your stats, how do we know that the 30% non Christians aren't disproportionately represented?.

Which is why I said:

There are 1,400,000 violent crimes and 14,000 homicides (actually murders, I think, but don't have the FBI stat link handy) committed each year." Do we know that 70% of those were committed by Christians? No, but probably something like that. "

I don't assume that Christians are more or less likely to commit violent crimes, so I'm not going to assume that they commit them at a higher or greater rate than other people.

 

[Mr Person]

Link: 7 Statistics You Need To Know About Black-On-Black Crime | Daily Wire

Conservative source, so not sure on how credible those stats are. The premise is the same though, just because 70% of the nation is Christian doesn't mean that 70% of the crime is done by Christians.

I would also argue that this country is not 70% Christian, and would also say that many that profess to be Christian do not apply the faith to their lifestyle (myself included). Many of the biggest hypocrites I have ever met, sat across from me in a church pew. This is one of the reasons I haven't been to church in over a decade.

Which is another reason I don't like the way muslims are held responsible for all crimes by muslim terrorists (or as in this thread, crimes associated with "migrants" who may have come from muslim countries).

There are 1,500,000,000-2,000,000,000 of them worldwide, after all. The fact that Osama Bin Laden said he was a muslim naturally has nothing to do with whether he actually acted in the religion's spirit.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian, He was agnostic and said that science was his religion.

What leads you to believe Dylan Roof is a Christian? He committed mass murder in a church, I highly doubt he was a Christian.

I'm not saying there aren't examples of Christians that have committed terrible acts but just picking random mass murderers and trying to call them Christians to fit your narrative is not being honest.

You're not saying they're not out there, but you never admit any Christian would ever do such a thing....

 

[Nap]

Which is another reason I don't like the way muslims are held responsible for all crimes by muslim terrorists (or as in this thread, crimes associated with "migrants" who may have come from muslim countries).

There are 1,500,000,000-2,000,000,000 of them worldwide, after all. The fact that Osama Bin Laden said he was a muslim naturally has nothing to do with whether he actually acted in the religion's spirit.

I'm largely in agreement with you. Due to my work, I get to meet engineers from all over the world some of whom are Muslim. I think bashing an entire religion based on a segment of it's people is pretty ridiculous. Like many things tend to do when politicized though the truth will pretty much be found in the center. The Left seems to be minimalizing the segment acting as if it they are such a small minority that there is no issue while the Right is basically fear mongering. There is an issue that needs to be addressed for the safety of American citizens but I honestly have no clue what could possibly be done about it.

 

[Nap]

You're not saying they're not out there, but you never admit any Christian would ever do such a thing....

If this is in response to the Dylann Roof comment, Yes I find it hard to believe that any practicing Christian could walk into a place of worship and murder fellow Christians. This would almost certainly be at odds with the faith.

Will I admit there are Christians that have committed mass murder or violent acts in the name of Christianity? Of course, sadly there is a violent history in almost every religion to deny that would be to deny actual historic facts. A clear and valid argument people that are trying to attack Christianity need only point to the Abortion Clinic bombings and murders tied to people who claim to be doing in it the name of Christianity.