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Trump Pick Monica Crowley Plagiarized Parts of Her Ph.D. Dissertation

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Monica Crowley, President-Elect Donald J. Trump’s pick for a top National Security Council job, plagiarizednumerous passages in her Ph.D. dissertation, Politico Magazine has found. An examination of the dissertation and the sources it cites identified more than a dozen sections of text that have been lifted, with little to no changes, from other scholarly works without proper attribution. In some instances, Crowley footnoted her source but did not identify with quotation marks the text she was copying directly. In other instances, she copied text or heavily paraphrased with no attribution at all.

Jeez!! But I guess it's better than getting your degree from a diploma mill? Or is it. At least, when you got it from a diploma mill, you just sent them the money and got your degree, and you didn't end up stealing other peoples' intellectual property.

Monica Crowley Plagiarized Parts of Her Ph.D. Dissertation - POLITICO Magazine
 
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I wonder what the agruments will be to excuse plagiarism...
 
I wonder what the agruments will be to excuse plagiarism...

You think Rebellion members care a bunch that the Genius Certification Paperwork had some cheating going on?

The university has long been BROKE.

Now it is a JOKE

CHILL
 
You think Rebellion members care a bunch that the Genius Certification Paperwork had some cheating going on?

The university has long been BROKE.

Now it is a JOKE

CHILL

Ah yes, I should relax over the idea that someone in the National Security council can't be bothered with inteluctual honesty...
 
Ah yes, I should relax over the idea that someone in the National Security council can't be bothered with inteluctual honesty...

She is in to be in the Narrative Spinning department, the intellectual standards required to do the job well are well outside the scope of anything the failed universities know.
 
She is in to be in the Narrative Spinning department, the intellectual standards required to do the job well are well outside the scope of anything the failed universities know.

And this makes intelectualI dishonesty okay because...
 
And this makes intelectualI dishonesty okay because...

I did not say that, I was hinting that it does not disqualify her. With all the lying and cheating that goes on in that town I am not going to care much that a communications person has done some. Trump Trusts her, that is good enough for me.
 
I did not say that, I was hinting that it does not disqualify her. With all the lying and cheating that goes on in that town I am not going to care much that a communications person has done some. Trump Trusts her, that is good enough for me.

"I hate all this lying and dishonesty, which is why I'm okay with more dishonest liars in office."
 
As someone who worked damned long and hard to write a Master's thesis--with everything that was not completely my own thoughts carefully noted and attributed--I will never defend any plagiarist. I don't know this woman, but assuming the report is accurate, it makes me disrespect her personally. Then again, I think it is possible for a person who has done something like this to be useful to a President, particularly in a job that can be done well without great intellectual integrity. After all, Mr. Trump is not asking her to write a Ph.D. thesis.
 
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Joe Biden did the same thing.

When Joe Biden (the left) does it, it's funny good ol' Joe with his goofy mannerisms and outbursts.

When anyone associated with Donald Trump does anything that can be somewhat conceived as remotely negative, they are Satan incarnate and should be burned at the stake for high treason.
 
Joe Biden did the same thing.

Well, no, he didn't. Biden allegedly borrowed some of a British politician's speech in another political speech; Crowley allegedly committed academic fraud.

Biden had also properly sourced the Kinnock speech on prior occasions; he just didn't at the debate and a speech to the NEA. Crowley allegedly committed academic fraud.
 
You think Rebellion members care a bunch that the Genius Certification Paperwork had some cheating going on?

The university has long been BROKE.

Now it is a JOKE

CHILL

This is what scares me the most about Trump supporters. You attack the very concept of education. Scientists, teachers and subject matter experts are always in on a conspiracy to push liberal ideals. Anti-intellectualism abounds and feelings are just as valid as facts.

Trump Trusts her, that is good enough for me.

Further cause for concern, you've gone so far as to delegate all of your thinking to a third party. If you adore someone who lies every time he opens his mouth, it's not surprising you don't care when others lie either.
 
This is what scares me the most about Trump supporters. You attack the very concept of education. Scientists, teachers and subject matter experts are always in on a conspiracy to push liberal ideals. Anti-intellectualism abounds and feelings are just as valid as facts.



Further cause for concern, you've gone so far as to delegate all of your thinking to a third party. If you adore someone who lies every time he opens his mouth, it's not surprising you don't care when others lie either.
Its not the the concept of education that is attacked, it is the concept of what your side, the left, has made out of the concept. Its no longer about learning, true science, critical, independent thought and reasoning... to your side it is all about falling in line, being with the in crowd of feigned "consensus". Science is not based on voting in a politically correct manner, its based on continuous systematic observation, measurement, reasonable conjecture and experiment...this the formulation, testing and modification of hypotheses.

Sorry, but...

It is YOUR side that has its validity based on feelings, not ours.

Just a question, brought up by others also knowledgable about the truth here, are you talking about Joe Biden in that last "every time he opens his mouth" statement? I mean, you do admit she is a she and he is a he, and that genders are fairly settled...well, except to your side and its "science"... :lamo
 
Joe Biden did the same thing.

Ted Kennedy was expelled from Harvard for paying a classmate to take an exam for him. Lots of people do really really stupid things sometimes. I have no clue why they believe they won't get caught.
 
Jeez!! But I guess it's better than getting your degree from a diploma mill? Or is it. At least, when you got it from a diploma mill, you just sent them the money and got your degree, and you didn't end up stealing other peoples' intellectual property.

Monica Crowley Plagiarized Parts of Her Ph.D. Dissertation - POLITICO Magazine

I'd like to see her removed from the job and then have the University revoke her degree.

On a tangent what is up with all these universities getting proof that a person plagiarized their college work and then allowing the individuals to keep their degrees? This looks bad for the schools.
 
Jeez!! But I guess it's better than getting your degree from a diploma mill? Or is it. At least, when you got it from a diploma mill, you just sent them the money and got your degree, and you didn't end up stealing other peoples' intellectual property.

Monica Crowley Plagiarized Parts of Her Ph.D. Dissertation - POLITICO Magazine

It's amazing the level of investigation the media is giving the Trump admin... I figured after 8 years of inability they'd have forgotten how.
 
I usually like her, but this is damning. I think she needs to remove herself from consideration for the job. Sorry.

Well, not so fast, is what I say. Improper citation/attribution is a very COMMON mistake by grad students today and also in the past, but more so today. I read the article and to me it sounds like a fabricated outrage story that at the time meant nothing to her grade nor her credibility. Today they have software that can catch it better, but in the past not so much. I'll chalk this one up to honest error, unless someone can prove to me with facts that Crowley deliberately plagiarized her thesis.


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