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35-Page Report Alleging Trump Was "Cultivated, Supported And Assisted" By Russia

randel said:
if i believed all the bs i wanted , then i would be a trump supporter....like i said, do i believe a trump tweet and an fbi director with an agenda during the election?
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You are failing at trolling. You know that don't you? Your turn. :mrgreen:
 
Absentglare said:
How ironic.

Don't worry, the next time you cite an article with a typo i'll happily remind you that your "logic" forces you to discard every single claim made by said article.
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Not the same thing. You're grasping at straws.
 
I'm curious about Wikileaks and Russia. Snowden was given asylum there and Russia has publicly stated that they could destroy Wikileaks. It seems like they own them and will do whatever they want.

I don't trust the story this thread is based on. I also don't discredit it. I'm interested to see how it plays out, but Trump seems to be more than a little partial to Russia - that would be like Reagan campaigning with Fidel Castro. It's madness. The question is why? If they have something on him, that answers the question. And it leads us to a very disturbing reality. I hope it isn't true but I fear it is. I'll be optimistic and assume that Trump thinks he can just make billions of dollars from Moscow rather than being blackmailed by him. I'm an optimist.
 
ocean515 said:
Explain why so many major news outlets wouldn't touch it?

Apparently this story has been around for some time, and nobody could verify anything that the fake story contained.

You are welcome to be obsessed over it, and you can join the other supporters of alt-left fake news, if that is your desire.
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Why did you not answer my question? Why is this story fake news? It was a real report of real claims presented to the real President and contained the real concerns of the intelligence community. So how is that fake news simply because something in it cannot be verified as 100% true right now?
 
Lakryte said:
You mean like all the allegations against Hillary Clinton? Or the allegations against her husband that turned out to be true back in the "good ol' days?" Please. Don't be such a partisan Trump apologist. There is nothing wrong or unusual with the media reporting on allegations, especially serious ones involving the President.
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Bill Clinton pays Paula Jones 800 thousand dollars..
https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/california/2016/08/06/9000-companies-left-california-since-2008/amp/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

Lol...THATS not a " allegation "

When Hillary Clinton told millions of Americans that she set up her rogue server system for the convience of using only one device, did you believe her ?

No, Im sincerely curious. Were YOU naive enough to believe that particular exscuse ???

Because I sure wasn't. You see Im not a idiot, and you would have to be a idiot to believe that she set up her illegal rogue Email server so she could just use one device.
 
haymarket said:
Why did you not answer my question? Why is this story fake news? It was a real report of real claims presented to the real President and contained the real concerns of the intelligence community. So how is that fake news simply because something in it cannot be verified as 100% true right now?
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I not jumping on your merry go round haymarket. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.

I've explained that this story is a fraud. It's fake. Rabid anti-Trump MSM outlets have had this fantasy story for months and months and wouldn't touch it. Why wouldn't they, even before the election?

So I've answered your question haymarket. If you don't like my answer, tough for you.
 
Fenton said:
Bill Clinton pays Paula Jones 800 thousand dollars..
https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/california/2016/08/06/9000-companies-left-california-since-2008/amp/?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

Lol...THATS not a " allegation "

When Hillary Clinton told millions of Americans that she set up her rogue server system for the convience of using only one device, did you believe her ?

No, Im sincerely curious. Were YOU naive enough to believe that particular exscuse ???

Because I sure wasn't. You see Im not a idiot, and you would have to be a idiot to believe that she set up her illegal rogue Email server so she could just use one device.
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tds---trumpistan deflection syndrome--to both Clintons.

How many posts do you think you'd get with this deflection as a new thread, Fenton ?
 
ocean515 said:
I not jumping on your merry go round haymarket. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.

I've explained that this story is a fraud. It's fake. Rabid anti-Trump MSM outlets have had this fantasy story for months and months and wouldn't touch it. Why wouldn't they, even before the election?

So I've answered your question haymarket. If you don't like my answer, tough for you.
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multi-faceted trumpgate
 
ocean515 said:
I not jumping on your merry go round haymarket.
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You buy a ticket ride the classic Marcus Illions jumper every time you post pretending to reply to me.
 
NIMBY said:
multi-faceted trumpgate
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Fake is fake.

One day, the people currently experiencing some kind of mental breakdown over their loss will come to realize that people aren't buying the fraud, deceit, and lies that encircle liberal/socialist progressivism, the MSM, and all the offshoots the Progressive Machine created to spread it's propaganda and indoctrinate it's believers.
 
Just like Clinton got caught getting BJ's in the White House, and he got on national TV and lied saying, "I did not have sex with that woman!"

At any time now I expect Trump will be on TV denying and lying, saying, "I did not have sex with Putin!" :lamo

Either this report is the truth or a lie and so far nobody (in DP) has 100% verified its validity - nor has anybody presented solid evidence to refute the report - and in a way the world will accept the outcome no matter which way it turns out.

Or have I missed something in this thread to the contrary? New evidence to support either side of this story? Seriously, which is it? I'd like to know if this is genuinely true or false.

At this point All of the speculation in the world is useless as the pecker on the Pope.
 
Jack Hays said:
Not the same thing. You're grasping at straws.
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You're right that they're not the same thing. They are two different situations. Unfortunately for you, the legal principle you preached, that is also a logical fallacy, applies to both.
 
Absentglare said:
You're right that they're not the same thing. They are two different situations. Unfortunately for you, the legal principle you preached, that is also a logical fallacy, applies to both.
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I did not preach. I informed you of a principle often cited in US courtrooms.
 
randel said:
indeed they did, he was aware U.S. Intelligence Confirms Trump was Blackmailed by Russia? : snopes.com while this may or may not be true, he was made aware
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...5a3a6c-d830-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html

U.S. officials emphasized that the summary was merely an annex to the main report, that the allegations it contained have never been substantiated and did not appear in the main body of the report or influence its conclusions that Russia sought to sabotage the 2016 race and help elect Trump.
 
ocean515 said:
You want to try that again in English?
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Mentioning the merry go round without knowing who Marcus Illions was is like talking about Yankee history and being ignorant of Babe Ruth.

And that is English.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Illions

You could have simply googled MARCUS ILLIONS and it would have taken less time to educate yourself that it did to make your remark. But then that would have been a positive step.
 
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Jack Hays said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...5a3a6c-d830-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html

U.S. officials emphasized that the summary was merely an annex to the main report, that the allegations it contained have never been substantiated and did not appear in the main body of the report or influence its conclusions that Russia sought to sabotage the 2016 race and help elect Trump.
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This is like killing a snake with direct pressure. It takes time to get the message across.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
1.5 billion with a net worth of what 3.5 billion? Granted hillary didn't make that much speaking and wink winking wall street, but to me, I don't think that's a fair argument.

yes he has a massive ego, that I will agree with.




Was he? or is the media, and leftist sheep tell them he is?





So you are saying we should tax people more to improve the working class who don't have jobs, lives?





You seem a little cynical about your utopian pipe dream here.


No, some working poor cannot be trained or educated, there are still plenty of manufacturing, warehousing type jobs that are needed, just not in this country yet. You look at business today, they seem excited about what trump is doing, jack ma wants to create 1 million us jobs... You can live in your carless liberal utopia all you want. If my sierra denali doesn't fit, I'll have to catch you another time! ;)
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You like to put words in peoples mouth don'tcha. Of the two of us, your the one advocating socialism here and acting like a liberal. Trying to tug at the heart strings, "oh the poor working class in the rust belt. You want them to starve, Boo hoo" I'd ask you why you even call yourself a libertarian, but you'd only come back with it's not socialism if it benefits whoever it is you want it to benefit rather than it benefitting people your not affiliated with. As far as me wanting to raise taxes. I don't, in fact I want to abolish the income tax altogether. AS well as gut the Fed, and give the power to create money back to the Treasury. I'd like to cut SS, Medicare, and the Military as well as most government programs. If that's a liberal pipe dream, then I guess I'm a liberal, whoop dee doo. You can call me a communist for all I care, doesn't change the fact that your on a bandwagon eating up propaganda with a smile oblivious to the total assreaming coming our way.
 
haymarket said:
Mentioning the merry go round without knowing who Marcus Illions was is like talking about Yankee history and being ignorant of Babe Ruth.

And that is English.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Illions

You could have simply googled MARCUS ILLIONS and it would have taken less time to educate yourself that it did to make your remark. But then that would have been a positive step.
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Look on the bright side: You got to show off a bit of arcane knowledge and indulge yourself in some snark.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Of course they did. They accused him of selling state secrets to China.
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I don't remember that one. I dang sure don't remember CNN and every other main stream media outlet reporting on it as if it were true, like they did this horse crap.
SouthernDemocrat said:
They even accused him of selling plots at the national cemetery,
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Same response as previous response.
SouthernDemocrat said:
of being a cocaine dealer,
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Same response as previous response.
SouthernDemocrat said:
and a mass murder.
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That one I remember, but it ain't treason.

SouthernDemocrat said:
Is it reasonable to believe that Trump hired prostitutes and had them piss on him? Yes given the sleaze he has admitted to on video.
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You've got to be kidding? I give you more credit than that.
SouthernDemocrat said:
Just the same,

1. I don't care if he did.

2. It takes more than some unsubstantiated report to convince me of it.
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The problem isn't the peeing story, but that it's being reported that because of that story, Trump and his team coordinated with the Russians to hack and then undermine the DNC and the Hillary campaign - that, if it were true, would be TREASON. You and I should both care about that. Either way. True or untrue. We should both care that if it isn't true, how such horse crap got into the Top Secret PDB, then leaked, and was reported by CNN and many others as if it were true. Of course, if it turns out to be true, then we have a Constitutional Crisis on our hands with Trump requiring Impeachment and then prosecution for TREASON.

So yeah, it matters.
 
Absentglare said:
It may be prudent to stock up on some survival gear; drinking water and canned food, at least.
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Could be, but I would hope not. It will dang sure be a Constitutional Crisis that will cause great problems within this country. That much is certain.
 
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