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35-Page Report Alleging Trump Was "Cultivated, Supported And Assisted" By Russia

Absentglare said:
I thought CNN only cited US intelligence, not the 35page buzzfeed report.
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Where in my post do I mention CNN or Buzzfeed or the report? If you can't find a place that I mentioned either then this is just another oblivious post from you and I will disregard all of your other posts in this thread with the expectation that they will be just as oblivious as this one. I have better things to do.
 
Jack Hays said:
It's a central claim. I take it you're not watching the news. The 35-page document was dismissed as a "discredited smear" tonight on NBC. Neither the FBI nor the CIA finds it credible and neither is investigating it further.

As for the Roman legal principle, it's a standard in US courtrooms.
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Your entire case rests on the "fact" that it is impossible for Trump to have colluded with the Russian government because "passport". Your case is a sham.
 
randel said:
are you sure it is false? he was in russia awhile back with his pageant.....are you for sure sure? absolutely no doubt? maybe the FBI should do a bang up job on him just like they did with the clinton emails?
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On the NBC Nightly News they just called it a "discredited smear." Neither the FBI nor the CIA found it credible and neither is investigating it further.
 
Absentglare said:
Your entire case rests on the "fact" that it is impossible for Trump to have colluded with the Russian government because "passport". Your case is a sham.
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And the fact that the individual in question has never been to Prague. It's over. You're approaching "birther" irrationality.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Where in my post do I mention CNN or Buzzfeed or the report? If you can't find a place that I mentioned either then this is just another oblivious post from you and I will disregard all of your other posts in this thread with the expectation that they will be just as oblivious as this one. I have better things to do.
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That's a really pissy reply to a relatively innocuous post.

You mentioned CNN here:

NonoBadDog said:
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The information hasn't been vetted or corroborated by anyone. CNN even stated that fact and then rationalized running the story anyway.
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NonoBadDog said:
I thought him raking the coals with the reporters was pretty entertaining. They publish a false report about him then expect civility. ****em. They got better than they deserved.
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So nothing about the ADL criticizing trump for his nazi comments trivializing the Holocaust?

The tds--trumpistan denial syndrome--is Nixon strong .
 
Jack Hays said:
On the NBC Nightly News they just called it a "discredited smear." Neither the FBI nor the CIA found it credible and neither is investigating it further.
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i'm on the website and it says 'unverified'....so it is still in play
 
Jack Hays said:
And the fact that the individual in question has never been to Prague. It's over. You're approaching "birther" irrationality.
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I don't think you understand how the road to truth operates. It doesn't operate according to your political preferences.
 
Jack Hays said:
And the fact that the individual in question has never been to Prague. It's over. You're approaching "birther" irrationality.
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He's your 'birther' president, Jack, not our 'birther' president .
 
Jack Hays said:
It's not "in play" for any serious entity.
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let me guess...fox news would be what you consider a 'serious entity'....if the intelligence agencies thought enough of it to brief him on it, then yes, it is still in play
 
randel said:
are you sure it is false? he was in russia awhile back with his pageant.....are you for sure sure? absolutely no doubt? maybe the FBI should do a bang up job on him just like they did with the clinton emails?
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There is literally no evidence on offer in these memos or from BuzzFeed that any single sentence in these documents is factual or true. What’s more, we know most major news organizations in America had seen them and despite their well-known institutional antipathy toward Trump, had chosen not to publish them or even make reference to them after efforts to substantiate their charges had failed.
BuzzFeed tells us that “the document was prepared for political opponents of Trump by a person who is understood to be a former British intelligence agent.” Indeed, the memos are designed to read as though they were cables sent from the field to the home office. And they should set off the bull detector of every rational person who reads them.
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Buzzfeed’s Trump report takes ‘fake news’ to a new level | New York Post
The document, a dossier prepared by a former British intelligence officer hired by Mr. Trump’s political opponents, had been circulating among high-ranking politicians and some journalists since the fall. Intelligence officials recently presented a two-page summary of the allegations to Mr. Trump and President Obama, CNN reported on Tuesday.
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In a brief interview in the Times newsroom on Tuesday evening, Dean Baquet, the executive editor of The Times, said the paper would not publish the document because the allegations were “totally unsubstantiated.”
“We, like others, investigated the allegations and haven’t corroborated them, and we felt we’re not in the business of publishing things we can’t stand by,” Mr. Baquet said.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/business/buzzfeed-donald-trump-russia.html?_r=0
 
randel said:
are you sure it is false? he was in russia awhile back with his pageant.....are you for sure sure? absolutely no doubt? maybe the FBI should do a bang up job on him just like they did with the clinton emails?
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A Russian venture capitalist and tech expert whose name and company are mentioned in the now-notorious document alleging connections between the Donald Trump campaign and Russian hackers says no intelligence officers have ever contacted him about the accusations, which he says are false.
A report compiled by a former Western intelligence official as opposition research against Trump was made public Tuesday when BuzzFeed posted its 35 pages. The document included unsubstantiated claims of collusion between the Trump campaign team and the Kremlin.
It also alleged that global tech firm XBT Holding, with operations in Dallas, was instrumental in the hack of leaked Democratic Party emails that embarrassed Hillary Clinton and fellow Democrats.
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“I don’t know why I was there,” Gubarev said, adding that perhaps a competitor sought to discredit him. “I still don’t understand the true reason for this report.”
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Aleksej Gubarev, of Russia's Webzilla, says hacking charges false | McClatchy DC
Trump tweeted that the document, which was referred to in a CNN report and later published in full on BuzzFeed News, was “FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!”
Trump was reacting to allegations in a memo originating from research reportedly compiled by a former British intelligence officer that purports to show that the Russian government has compromising information on Trump.
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“I’m telling you emphatically that I’ve not been to Prague, I’ve never been to Czech [Republic], I’ve not been to Russia,” Cohen said. “The story is completely inaccurate, it is fake news meant to malign Mr. Trump.”
Cohen said that during the time the report places him in Prague, he was actually with his son visiting USC and meeting with the baseball coach. A USC baseball source confirmed Tuesday night that Cohen and his son had visited USC on August 29th. Cohen said that he was in Los Angeles from the 23rd through the 29th of August, and that the rest of the month he was in New York. He said that his only trip to an EU country over the summer had been a vacation to Italy in July. In one instance, the dossier places the alleged Prague travel in "August/September 2016." Cohen said he was in New York for the entire month of September.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...is-fake-news-meant-to-malign-mr-trump/512762/
FBI Director James B. Comey, in his first public comments since the presidential election, said the bureau requested but was denied direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s email servers and other hacked devices as part of its probe of Russian hacking.
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He said he did not know for sure why the DNC did not provide the FBI direct access to the email servers.
Tuesday’s hearing follows appearances by the intelligence community’s top officials last week before the Senate Armed Services Committee to discuss the investigation of the Russian cyberhacks into the DNC and the personal email of former Hillary Clinton campaign manager John Podesta.
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He said information from old RNC domains was taken but none of it released publicly, and that neither the current RNC domain or Mr. Trump’s campaign were successfully hacked.
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James Comey: DNC denied FBI direct access to servers during Russia hacking probe - Washington Times

Yeah, pretty sure the report is fake.
 
NIMBY said:
So nothing about the ADL criticizing trump for his nazi comments trivializing the Holocaust?

The tds--trumpistan denial syndrome--is Nixon strong .
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Who is the ADL? Speak English or we won't be able to communicate.
 
randel said:
regardless what you believe, this story is still in play, and with as much as trump has lied about his russian connections, expect it to stick around for a good while, true or false.
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You can believe all the bull**** you want. You didn't even take the time to look at the information. I posted my post at 5:33 and you had composed and posted a reply by 5:36, less than three minutes later. You aren't interested in the truth. You are just interested in an agenda whether it is false or not. :eek:uch: Troll much?
 
randel said:
let me guess...fox news would be what you consider a 'serious entity'....if the intelligence agencies thought enough of it to brief him on it, then yes, it is still in play
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They did not brief him on it. Reference to it was included in a two-page annex included in the background material so DNI Clapper could discuss examples of disinformation if Trump asked. He did not.
 
Jack Hays said:
Good luck to both of you. Your opponent is reality.
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How ironic.

Don't worry, the next time you cite an article with a typo i'll happily remind you that your "logic" forces you to discard every single claim made by said article.
 
haymarket said:
How is this fake news. It was a real report of real claims presented to the real President and contained the real concerns of the intelligence community. So how is that fake news simply because something in it cannot be verified as 100% true right now?
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Explain why so many major news outlets wouldn't touch it?

Apparently this story has been around for some time, and nobody could verify anything that the fake story contained.

You are welcome to be obsessed over it, and you can join the other supporters of alt-left fake news, if that is your desire.
 
NonoBadDog said:
You can believe all the bull**** you want. You didn't even take the time to look at the information. I posted my post at 5:33 and you had composed and posted a reply by 5:36, less than three minutes later. You aren't interested in the truth. You are just interested in an agenda whether it is false or not. :eek:uch: Troll much?
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if i believed all the bs i wanted , then i would be a trump supporter....like i said, do i believe a trump tweet and an fbi director with an agenda during the election?
 
ataraxia said:
.... says the "who cares if Russia just may have very successfully installed a puppet regime here in the US like it was some kind of third world banana republic, and is blackmailing the new president elect to be their lapdog? We should just let it go already" population.
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I'm well aware of the psychotic delusions of people on the left, so additional confirmation is not really needed at this point.

I'm looking forward to whatever else the Progressive Machine unleashes from their alt-left universe.

Citizens are learned a great deal from the effort.
 
randel said:
so i should believe what trump tweets or an FBI director who had an agenda during the election?
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You have a mind of your own. You don't need my permission to believe whatever BS you are going to believe but if you insist you have my approval to believe whatever garbage you want to believe. I will find your future posts amusing. Please, continue. :mrgreen:
 
Jack Hays said:
They did not brief him on it. Reference to it was included in a two-page annex included in the background material so DNI Clapper could discuss examples of disinformation if Trump asked. He did not.
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he was aware then, thankyou, and it was included
 
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