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President-elect Trump's Sunday morning tweetstorm at the New York Times

Bucky said:
If you have a problem with President Trump, write a letter to your local congressmen...
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You're more accessible. Why can't we just tell you about it?
 
Bucky said:
Wow, a President that has no issues with calling it like it is?
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Um, if you're going to "call it like it is," shouldn't the statement be... you know, correct?
 
jmotivator said:
Fact: a "surge" in digital subscribers, a huge loss in print subscribers. Ad sales plummet 19%.

They really shouldn't be crowing unless they want their Election day predictions fact checked.
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Read your entire link, or you are knowlingly lying - their digital revenue increased 21%.

Try and present an accurate summary instead of cherry picking.
 
Grand Mal said:
You believe Trump?
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In point of fact, Trump is right. The publisher of the New York Times felt the need to ask readers for their continued support:

New York Times publisher vows to 'rededicate' paper to reporting honestly | Fox News

“Readers are sending letters of complaint at a rapid rate. Here’s one that summed up the feelings succinctly, from Kathleen Casey of Houston: “Now, that the world has been upended and you are all, to a person, in a state of surprise and shock, you may want to consider whether you should change your focus from telling the reader what and how to think, and instead devote yourselves to finding out what the reader (and nonreaders) actually think.”

She wrote about another reader who asked that the paper should focus on the electorate instead of “pushing the limited agenda of your editors.”

“Please come down from your New York City skyscraper and join the rest of us.
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The publisher, Schultzberger, insisted that the paper had been fair to both candidates. How can I be expected to believe a paper published by someone who lies like that?
 
Top Cat said:
He's a ****ing petulant child. Act like a president. He won. Act like it.
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Really? I mean.... really, seriously? Why would he want to let them off easy? Who cares about the NYT? It isn't like the NYT is a person. It is a news agency so it has no feelings. ****em.
 
SMTA said:
Read your entire link, or you are knowlingly lying - their digital revenue increased 21%.

Try and present an accurate summary instead of cherry picking.
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Which do you think represents the larger piece of the NYT pie?

Hint: Total NYT revenue was $364 million. Digital ads accounted for $44 million of that. First quarter gross revenue was $383 million last year.
 
jmotivator said:
Which do you think represents the larger piece of the NYT pie?

Hint: Total NYT revenue was $364 million. Digital ads accounted for $44 million of that. First quarter gross revenue was $383 million last year.
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You still cherry picked. Not very impressive at all.
 
SMTA said:
You still cherry picked. Not very impressive at all.
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It isn't cherry picking to point out the primary source of revenue loss in the business. I was pointing out the overall downward trend for the NYT sales is driven by print ad sales, you tried to divert from that fact by arguing that the meager online ad sales were a bit less meager.
 
jmotivator said:
It isn't cherry picking to point out the primary source of revenue loss in the business. I was pointing out the overall downward trend for the NYT sales is driven by print ad sales, you tried to divert from that fact by arguing that the meager online ad sales were a bit less meager.
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Online ad sales aren't "meager" - $44 million versus $80 million for print. And they also make money on digital subscriptions ($56 million), which is also growing, with gross revenue basically flat for the YOY period.

If you want to point out the newspaper business, including the NYT, pretty much sucks and has for several years not, that's legitimate. But it's more persuasive when you don't cherry pick the parts of the business losing money and ignore where they're gaining.
 
JasperL said:
Online ad sales aren't "meager" - $44 million versus $80 million for print. And they also make money on digital subscriptions ($56 million), which is also growing, with gross revenue basically flat for the YOY period.

If you want to point out the newspaper business, including the NYT, pretty much sucks and has for several years not, that's legitimate. But it's more persuasive when you don't cherry pick the parts of the business losing money and ignore where they're gaining.
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You just lost pretty much every poster in this topic so far.
 
Bucky said:
Sit back and and enjoy the ride TopCat. It maybe uncomfortable at first, even painful. Close your eyes and take in the winning. You'll thank us later.
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If we survive a Trump presidency, I will be pleased.

And I mean literally survive, not figuratively.

I now have to consider it actually possible that we might literally die.


I'm hope I'm overreacting.
 
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