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Jill Stein: Democrats Govern by Fear—That Alone Should Cost Them Your Vote

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Alexander Reed Kelly: Jill Stein: Democrats Govern by Fear?That Alone Should Cost Them Your Vote - Q & A - Truthdig

There was no real discussion about the catastrophe that [the] ongoing war in the Middle East has caused, the fact that it’s devoured more than half of our discretionary budget, that it costs you nearly half of your income taxes to support this bloated and dangerous Department of Defense, which is really a department of offense. We have failed states, mass refugee migrations and even worse terrorist threats, and Hillary Clinton wants to start an air war with Russia over Syria. It’s widely understood that she is pushing for a “no-fly zone,” but many people don’t understand what that means. It means we will shoot down other people’s airplanes over Syria. And that means Russia.
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DoD are hammers looking for nails; boogeymen are created from whole cloth.
 
Hillary has always been a warmongering idiot. The fact that democrats support her so widely only goes to show that their claim of being anti-interventionism or whatever nonsense they are claiming these days is bull****.
 
joG said:
The problem with Stein is her policy mix.
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I am not a fan of hers but I will probably vote for her. Thought by my coming to this site, maybe someone would trigger something that allowed me to actually sort between Trump and Clinton. At this point, I will just vote for her to help the Greens secure federal matching funds for the future, since the Libertarians should have no trouble with that the way Johnson is polling.
 
joG said:
The problem with Stein is her policy mix.
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I can't disagree. But her policies that I do agree with place her far in front of the alternatives.

It should've been Bernie.
 
Schism said:
I can't disagree. But her policies that I do agree with place her far in front of the alternatives.

It should've been Bernie.
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I don't understand how BS could gain so much acclaim. Social democracy was changed in all sorts of variety in Europe and is falling apart so badly that the parties are being forced to break the promises they had made and gut the social programs. How can Americans have missed that?
 
I think Stein will end up pulling barely 1% of the vote.
 
Schism said:
Alexander Reed Kelly: Jill Stein: Democrats Govern by Fear?That Alone Should Cost Them Your Vote - Q & A - Truthdig



DoD are hammers looking for nails; boogeymen are created from whole cloth.
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Maybe so but Trump's whole campaign strategy is based on fear- playing to it where he finds it and creating it out of whole cloth. The Republican platform is entirely negative- doom-and-gloom, enemies at the gates, impending disaster. A crook in every office and a monster under every bed. A Trump speech is a tedious recital of a list of fears- some exaggerated, some contrived. Anyone who truly believes what Trump says will hang themselves when he loses, that's how bad he describes the USA.
 
Schism said:
Alexander Reed Kelly: Jill Stein: Democrats Govern by Fear?That Alone Should Cost Them Your Vote - Q & A - Truthdig



DoD are hammers looking for nails; boogeymen are created from whole cloth.
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I'm writing an alt-history where Hillary Clinton wins the 2008 election and essentially cedes power of the U.S. government to the Pentagonal military-industrial complex and the Bush Dynasty, and then the U.S. descends into a constitutional crisis c. 2013-2016 that results in Obama as Vice President becoming the acting-President during that point in time, which results in a thrown election in 2016 in which Jill Stein emerges as the 45th President and is almost immediately assassinated. President Clinton steps in as acting President and the 12th amendment is repealed, giving the Vice-Presidency to Trump. Shortly after beginning her "fourth/third/3.5th-term" Hillary "dies in office" and Trump hijacks the government and the country descends into Civil War II, split between the United States of America, shored up by POTUS Elizabeth Warren on one side and, the so-called "Republic of America" on the other. The Republicans and the Americans - due to the ensuing global economic depression (the Second Depression) - send the world into a tailspin that results in WW3, with the U.S. as a neutral and the Russians, EU and China against the Commonwealth of Nations and NATO (President Trump pulls the U.S. out of NATO leaving Canada, the U.K. and Germany as the spearhead against the Euro-Russian militant imperialism).

Secretly, the Republicans side with the Russians and Spaniard-spearheaded ultranationalist/imperialist EU, beginning with Spain essentially declaring war on Britain over "the Rock", post-Brexit.
 
Jill Stein is as crazy as Ben Carson. Anyone voting for her is throwing away their vote.

If you want to support the Green Party, vote for more GP state legislators so that in the future, the Green Party has experienced/competent people to run in national elections.
 
Anti-GMO, anti-pesticide, pro-homeopathy... yeah, you can tell what kind of person she is.
 
Grand Mal said:
Maybe so but Trump's whole campaign strategy is based on fear- playing to it where he finds it and creating it out of whole cloth. The Republican platform is entirely negative- doom-and-gloom, enemies at the gates, impending disaster. A crook in every office and a monster under every bed. A Trump speech is a tedious recital of a list of fears- some exaggerated, some contrived. Anyone who truly believes what Trump says will hang themselves when he loses, that's how bad he describes the USA.
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The difference being that Clinton's boogeymen are global while Trump's are primarily domestic.
 
Stein is a whacko ... maybe worse than Johnson.
 
Gaea said:
Jill Stein is as crazy as Ben Carson. Anyone voting for her is throwing away their vote.
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Nonsense. Voting for Clinton or Trump is throwing away much more.
 
Simpleχity;1066455926 said:
Stein is a whacko ... maybe worse than Johnson.
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Apparently, you've never heard of Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.
 
Schism said:
Apparently, you've never heard of Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.
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Anyone who thinks homeopathy is medicine shouldn't be allowed to run the country.
 
Deuce said:
Anyone who thinks homeopathy is medicine shouldn't be allowed to run the country.
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OVERKILL: An avalanche of unnecessary medical care is harming patients physically and financially - America’s Epidemic of Unnecessary Care - The New Yorker
Doctors perform thousands of unnecessary surgeries - Doctors perform thousands of unnecessary surgeries
When Less Is More: Issues Of Overuse In Health Care - https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=unnecessary+pharmaceuticals
Misprescribing and Overprescribing of Drugs - Worst Pills
 
Schism said:
Nonsense. Voting for Clinton or Trump is throwing away much more.
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If everyone who doesn't like either Trump or Clinton would vote for a third option your whole electoral system would be instantly reformed. A viable third party is what's needed- the lack of one led to this sad situation.
There'll never be a better chance, but time is running out. I don't see a viable third on the horizon, do you?
 
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