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Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems

straykatz said:
I don't dispute that she has lied and as you clearly state she "is" held to a much higher standard ...however..one liar is no better than the other yet a free pass is given every time he opens his mouth. That was my point.
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I beg t o differ. The world is not nearly as binary and you think it is. I'm sure, because you are human, that you have told lies at times in your life... do you think you are no better than Trump? By your own argument you render yourself incapable of passing judgment on either candidate.
 
haymarket said:
A thoroughly disgusting story about a disgusting action by Trump.

And it gives whole new clarification to why the man will not release his income tax returns which are likely a verifiable mine field of more news just like this.
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I think this part of the story shows again how slimy little-hand Orange man is:

"It was a million dollar shot until it wasn’t.


Donald Trump once refused to pay a winner of a hole-in-one contest $1 million during a 2010 golf tournament, prompting the competition’s angry winner to sue the mogul, recently unearthed documents from the lawsuit show.

And when the GOP nominee finally settled the suit for $158,000, he did so with money from his charitable foundation, which is illegal.
The claims add to mounting allegations surrounding Trump’s ethics as a businessman as well as the legal and ethical questions surrounding his charity, the Donald J. Trump Foundation.

The country club legal calamity arose in August 2010, after Martin Greenberg hit a hole-in-one on the 13th hole while playing in a for-charity tournament at the Trump National Golf Club, Westchester, in Briarcliff Manor, N.Y.

But the rules also stipulated that Greenberg’s shot had to travel at least 150 yards, a distance that Trump’s golf club, allegedly, made the hole short of, on purpose."

Trump refused to pay winner of 2010 golf contest $1M prize money - NY Daily News

Rigged it.
 
DA60 said:
I am no Trump fan...but you are allowed to take a certain amount of money from a charity for your own personal use.

I used to be Head of the board on a philanthropic organization and what Trump is doing is not unheard of.
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“I represent 700 nonprofits a year, and I’ve never encountered anything so brazen,” said Jeffrey Tenenbaum, who advises charities at the Venable law firm in Washington. After The Washington Post described the details of these Trump Foundation gifts, Tenenbaum described them as “really shocking.”


“If he’s using other people’s money — run through his foundation — to satisfy his personal obligations, then that’s about as blatant an example of self-dealing [as] I’ve seen in awhile,” Tenenbaum said."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...c88f9c-7d11-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html
 
Praxas said:
It may be allowed, but that doesn't mean it isn't dishonest especially when you are using it to settle legal issues. Also, isn't Trump (by his own admission) so wealthy so why would he need to take money from his foundation instead of just using personal money accounts?
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There are laws against self dealing. This has a wretched stink all over it.
 
DA60 said:
It does not matter what he does with it. Feed a puppy, get a lap dance or buy a Corvette...it's his money; he can do with it what he wishes.

If you don't like the law - that is one thing.

But once the guy has legally taken the money - what he does with it is no one's business but his.
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I didn't say anything about it being "illegal", but yes when you have a guy like Trump boasting about how wealthy he is he does look like a dishonest chump taking money from his Foundation to settle legal problems. Sorry that's just the way it is.
 
Fenton said:
Obama thought it was stable in 2011. Stable enough to pull out all US forces and not look back.
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Oh you mean keeping an agreement Bush had in place. We aren't dictators when a country wants us out, we get out.
 
DA60 said:
It does not matter what he does with it. Feed a puppy, get a lap dance or buy a Corvette...it's his money; he can do with it what he wishes.

If you don't like the law - that is one thing.

But once the guy has legally taken the money - what he does with it is no one's business but his.
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No. No.

No.

There are laws about charitable organizations, and how they use their money.

You are not allowed to use your charitable organization as a slush fund for yourself. Charitable donations are tax deductible. Therefore, what you could just do is to donate all your money to your own charity, and then use that to pay your bills. It's illegal, even if Trump had donated the money. '
 
Paperview said:
There are laws against self dealing. This has a wretched stink all over it.
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I am not a lawyer but I'm sure Trump has had his slimy lawyers figure a way out of it. I agree legal or illegal, it is a slimy action by a man that boasts how wealthy he is personally.
 
haymarket said:
A thoroughly disgusting story about a disgusting action by Trump.

And it gives whole new clarification to why the man will not release his income tax returns which are likely a verifiable mine field of more news just like this.
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Yes, he just said yesterday, he likes using other peoples money.
 
jmotivator said:
I beg t o differ. The world is not nearly as binary and you think it is. I'm sure, because you are human, that you have told lies at times in your life... do you think you are no better than Trump? By your own argument you render yourself incapable of passing judgment on either candidate.
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I have no problem calling either of them liars. That to me is passing judgement which you presume I am incapable of.
 
straykatz said:
Hillary is held to a much higher standard than Trump....seems the "r" party only has high standards when it comes to the opposition.
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Thanks for your sharing......

and you may be on to something.....
 
straykatz said:
I have no problem calling either of them liars. That to me is passing judgement which you presume I am incapable of.
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Right, because in passing judgment you set yourself above them when, by your own argument, you can't be. For your argument to be logically consistent you can't judge either of them.
 
jmotivator said:
Right, because in passing judgment you set yourself above them when, by your own argument, you can't be. For your argument to be logically consistent you can't judge either of them.
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Either way I will be voting for a liar. Case closed.
 
Gotta give credit to the Smoking Gun for being out front on the Trump Foundation story in January. https://t.co/15lnxfEGEU

[h=1]Donald Trump Still A Miser, Tax Return Shows[/h] [h=2]Tycoon's foundation again staked by tix scalper[/h]


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[h=3]View Document[/h] [h=3]Trump Foundation '14[/h]


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JANUARY 15--For the sixth straight year, Donald Trump made no contributions to his own charitable foundation, instead relying on a hefty contribution from a New York City ticket scalper to underwrite the group’s activities, according to a new Internal Revenue Service filing.


The Donald J. Trump Foundation’s 2014 tax return, which the billionaire signed and filed two months ago, shows that the organization donated only $591,450 that year, the lowest amount since 2003, when the billionaire made just $187,725 in charitable contributions.


The miserly Trump, whose paltry philanthropy has long been chronicled in these pages, made 53 separate donations in 2014, the largest of which, $100,000, went to the Citizens United Foundation, the Washington, D.C.-based conservative advocacy group.


Trump’s foundation also gave $25,000 to the publisher of the conservative American Spectator, and $50,000 to the Manhattan school attended by his nine-year-old son Barron (the private Columbia Grammar and Preparatory School got $50,000 in 2012)."
 
UPDATE

Trump Lashes Out at Media Again

Rick Klein: “It took until almost 10:30 pm last night for the Trump campaign to put out its statement on the latest Washington Post revelations about the Trump Foundation. This one accused the Post of ‘inaccuracies and omissions’ and ‘wrong’ facts – and proceeded to enumerate precisely zero items from any of those categories. It’s response by bluster, on paper, replacing actual answers to valid questions. (The paper trail in the latest report – documenting personal business legal settlements covered by Trump’s charitable foundation – is particularly solid, and has not been refuted by anyone in and around Trump.) Tuesday night, Mike Pence applauded his running mate for answering media questions ‘just about every day.’ But a summer storyline has flipped as we head into fall: Trump hasn’t held a full-fledged news conference since July.”

“His campaign’s scorching attacks on media organizations who dig in on his business or personal dealings are designed to obfuscate, not illuminate. A campaign that’s focused on ‘Crooked Hillary’ is going to have a harder time making that case without a straighter posture.”

The Note: Other People’s Money - ABC News
https://politicalwire.com/2016/09/20/trump-used-charity-to-settle-lawsuits/
 
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