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Donald Trump's $25,000 Pam Bondi problem

jmotivator said:
The smart one is the one who made billions if earning money is your thing.

But you are more a fan of corrupt money... but then you are a liberal, so that is to be expected.
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Has Trump released his tax returns yet? Then we could actually see how much he made, and how he did it. All of this back and forth about how they each made their money is silly and just speculation. Let's do some side by side analysis.
 
ocean515 said:
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Another pack of lies from the dark side.

Bribed? Total lie. Purposeful, and with intent.

A campaign contribution is not a bribe.

Buying influence? Absolutely. Nothing illegal about that.

Perhaps the hate Trump obsessed could find a way to hate, without vaporizing their credibility.

Voters are seeing through this BS and will respond appropriately.

The anti-Trump dark side might want to take notice of that.
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Is Trump lackey Ben Carson a liar too?

"Donald Trump has admitted that he knows how the system works and that he has worked with both Democrats and Republicans and that money has been exchanged. You know, he has not tried to hide the fact that has occurred."
 
Napoleon said:
Is Trump lackey Ben Carson a liar too?

"Donald Trump has admitted that he knows how the system works and that he has worked with both Democrats and Republicans and that money has been exchanged. You know, he has not tried to hide the fact that has occurred."
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So you would like to see campaign contributions outlawed?

Why don't you start a thread with that question.

Why do people pay $100,000 to eat chicken breasts at the same table as Hilary Clinton? To learn of her early days with Bill?
 
ocean515 said:
Of course. And then completely lie about it, and spread those lies far and wide. Opinions are not facts, and presenting lies as facts says more about the creator, than the listener.

Voters are noticing and will respond in whatever way their conscious dictates.
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What am I lying about?
 
fmw said:
Nice and politics don't have much to do with each other.
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So you haven't built a good case then. Trump was immoral and greedy and used backhanded techniques and cronyism to advance his business goals through government corruption. Just as bad as the government that takes the bribe.
 
JasperL said:
What am I lying about?
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There is no evidence to support statements of fact that are being spread. Opinions are not facts.

People claiming Trump lied about talking to Bondi, or that he bribed her are lying. Nothing has been presented that suggests either are true.

I fully expect partisans to be partisans.

What I will reject is the effort to lie about the facts involved.
 
WCH said:
I keep hearing this and think, how does this even compare to what Hillary has done?
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The difference hear is that you can point directly to a check and an action that was favorable to the person that wrote the check.

VS Clinton who supposedly had meetings with a fraction of the thousands of people that donated to her foundation and to date we can't find one example of someone actually getting a favorable outcome that came directly through Clintons actions. The best I've seen is the uranium one deal that required 8 or 9 heads of departments of the federal government, including Hillary, to confirm the deal before it was allowed. So there is no evidence of pay to play or quid pro quo.
 
Simpleχity;1066287411 said:
Donald Trump's $25,000 Pam Bondi problem


$25,000 Trump check arrives ... investigation of Trump U is nixed.

Pay to play? According to Trump, he would indeed pad the campaign pockets of a politician to obtain a Trump-positive outcome.




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Florida AG Pam Bondi speaking at the GOP Convention in Cleveland
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That sure was smart of Trump's charity foundation. He's a real tactical genius.
 
Ikari said:
Of course Trump is pay-to-play, so is Clinton. Peas in a pod, those two.
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Didn't trump donate to Hillary before? Hmmmmm makes ya think.


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Napoleon said:
What exactly has Hillary (allegedly) done and how does that compare? Donate to help people with HIV/AIDS and get a luncheon with the SOS vs donate to the Trump Foundation so he can bribe an AG to keep him out of a courtroom?
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We dont really know because she deleted the evidence. We know that rich foreigners with business interests in Libya were granted access to her because they were important to the foundation. Not that this is relavent to Bondi.
 
Cardinal said:
So you pull for the guy who lost money to save himself from an investigation. If you want to die on that hill so be it.
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So Trump lost money on Trump University? Your math is broken.
 
jmotivator said:
So Trump lost money on Trump University? Your math is broken.
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The students who believed Donald when he said he would teach them his knowledge, and who were then made to write reviews non-anonymously in return for their degrees, were losers. Donald, however, made money like a hero.
 
JasperL said:
So Bondi is nothing but a mobster, the AG office is a mob, consumer protection laws equivalent to a 'protection racket'? And Trump did nothing wrong with Trump U? States as diverse as Texas, FL and NY targeted the totally above board Trump U as a simple exercise in extortion of an honest businessman running a good business?
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You are bad at processing analogies. In my analogy Bondi was running as much a mob protection racket as Hillary Clinton was at State.
 
Cardinal said:
The students who believed Donald when he said he would teach them his knowledge, and who were then made to write reviews non-anonymously in return for their degrees, were losers. Donald, however, made money like a hero.
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As opposed to Hillary making money like a crook.
 
tres borrachos said:
Has Trump released his tax returns yet? Then we could actually see how much he made, and how he did it. All of this back and forth about how they each made their money is silly and just speculation. Let's do some side by side analysis.
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It isn't how much he "made" it is the assessment of his various properties owned. Forbes values them at $4.5 billion versus $650 million in debt. That makes him a billionaire.
 
jmotivator said:
Nope. Hillary was a crook accepting bribes. I realize this makes her a hero to you.
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Nope, she got money. Trump got money. How they got it is irrelevant, so long as they made money.
 
ocean515 said:
There is no evidence to support statements of fact that are being spread. Opinions are not facts.

People claiming Trump lied about talking to Bondi, or that he bribed her are lying. Nothing has been presented that suggests either are true.

I fully expect partisans to be partisans.

What I will reject is the effort to lie about the facts involved.
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How do you know all of this? You must be Pam Bondi. Hells bells, you need to get the Trump spokespeople to get their stories straight. Hope Hicks is now saying Trump did speak with you, contrary to what he said the other day when he insisted that he never spoke with you. She said he meant he didn't speak to you about Trump University. Maybe you can clear all this up for us since you seem to have the inside scoop here.

Poor Trump. Every time Hillary looks like she's about to implode, he has these silly unforced errors, Pam.
 
ocean515 said:
There is no evidence to support statements of fact that are being spread. Opinions are not facts.

People claiming Trump lied about talking to Bondi, or that he bribed her are lying. Nothing has been presented that suggests either are true.

I fully expect partisans to be partisans.

What I will reject is the effort to lie about the facts involved.
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The facts are pretty simple. Bondi announced that she might investigate Trump U., Donald donated $25,000 to an org tied to her and to her campaign directly, and she quickly dropped the investigation. Trump has also said many times he contributes to politicians to buy favors.

As I said a while back, there is no written agreement so we are left to draw our own conclusions on whether the contribution was just coincidentally timed and had nothing to do with investigations of Trump U. That seems highly unlikely...
 
Cardinal said:
Nope, she got money. Trump got money. How they got it is irrelevant, so long as they made money.
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Nope. It is entirely relevant. But it is fun seeing how deep down the rabbit whole you are willing to run when you think it helps Hillary. It is an interesting extension to your compatriots at the Socialist lice farms that believe profit is a crime... now, if it helps Hillary, you will believe there is no crime in corruption!

You'd make a great apparatchik.
 
blackjack50 said:
Didn't trump donate to Hillary before? Hmmmmm makes ya think.


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Yes...but not through his charity foundation and lying to the IRS about it, like he did for Bondi.
 
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