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Potential Trump VP chioce actually believes in a woman's right ti

I told you it's a paradox for me.

Uh. That doesn't seem like much of a paradox to me. Our rights have always been limited by the rights of others, and we've pretty much held from the beginning that governments are instituted among men to protect those rights from abuse by their fellow man.


Are you also in favor of ending the laws against assault, rape, etc? sort of a:

If you want to, do it.
If you don't, don't.
 
Uh. That doesn't seem like much of a paradox to me. Our rights have always been limited by the rights of others, and we've pretty much held from the beginning that governments are instituted among men to protect those rights from abuse by their fellow man.


Are you also in favor of ending the laws against assault, rape, etc? sort of a:

I'm not debating abortion.
I have 0 desire to.

You can assume it's cowardly or whatever, that doesn't bother me.
 
I'm not debating abortion.
I have 0 desire to.

You can assume it's cowardly or whatever, that doesn't bother me.

Then..... stop getting involved in the abortion debate by telling people they should shut up and put it on the back burner?
 
No.
Because I can have a desire to not discuss abortion but ask for a time out for all the people who want to mire the country in it.

:shrug: if you don't want to get into a discussion about why we shouldn't stop talking about it, don't tell people to stop talking about it. You are inviting the conversation when you do so.
 
:shrug: if you don't want to get into a discussion about why we shouldn't stop talking about it, don't tell people to stop talking about it. You are inviting the conversation when you do so.

That's fine, I'll just reiterate that I don't want to talk about abortion as an issue.
That's what the whole response was about, lets just let the abortion issue settle for now.

You can all start back arguing about it in court, waste time and money then.
That's it.
 
That's fine, I'll just reiterate that I don't want to talk about abortion as an issue.
That's what the whole response was about, lets just let the abortion issue settle for now.

Bro this is far and a way the worst thing that we do, the most important issue that we have. If you don't want to talk about it, don't. But we aren't going to stop or pause any more than you would in the situations outlined above.
 
Bro this is far and a way the worst thing that we do, the most important issue that we have. If you don't want to talk about it, don't. But we aren't going to stop or pause any more than you would in the situations outlined above.

It's just really annoying and for the last 10 years I've even barely followed it, nothings changed.
 
It's just really annoying and for the last 10 years I've even barely followed it, nothings changed.

:shrug: imagine how those of us who care deeply about it feel. It's not just annoying, it's heartbreaking, infuriating. That's why I don't talk about it much in here - I end up feeling physically nauseous, I risk losing my temper. If it makes you uncomfortable to think about :shrug: well, I think that's because you don't want to, but I can understand that. I simply have not intention of putting the most critical issue we face as a nation on the backburner because of it.
 
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