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For Years, Trump's Charity Gave Veterans Little More Than Peanuts

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For Years, Trump's Charity Gave Veterans Little More Than Peanuts

Now he wants to use them as political props.

As Emily Canal of Forbes reported in October: "The Donald J. Trump Foundation has donated $5.5 million to 298 charities between 2009 and 2013 (the most recent year available), according to the non-profit's 990 tax forms from those years. Of that, only $57,000 has been donated to seven organizations that directly benefit military veterans or their families, Forbes found. Wounded Warriors was not among the organizations Trump's foundation gave to in that time period."

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The Trump Foundation's $57,000 in donations to veterans groups from 2009 to 2013 amounted to far less than Trump's donations to the Clinton Foundation. "Trump is listed on the Clinton Foundation's donor page as having given somewhere between $100,001 and $250,000. the Daily Caller reported last year.
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For Years, Trump's Charity Gave Veterans Little More Than Peanuts | The Weekly Standard

I have to give Trump credit for one thing. I don't know how he manages to remember what his position on anything is today based on all the things he's said in the past. He will say anything, no matter how much it conflicts with his comments and positions just a few years before.

He was pro-choice, now he's pro life.
He loved Hillary Clinton (and donated money to her campaign numerous times), now she's incompetent .
He thought Megyn Kelly was wonderful, now she's a tramp.
Claims to be a conservative Republican, yet held two fundraisers for Charlie Crist who had changed parties and running against Rubio.
He hates the ACA, but once called for universal health care.

And as this article shows, he claims he will do anything to help veterans, but his past proves otherwise.


As George Will said, if Trump wins the nomination there will be no conservatives to vote for.
 
The panic among "conservatives" is on full display with each passing article written.
 
OrphanSlug said:
The panic among "conservatives" is on full display with each passing article written.
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I'd also be happy to post a thread on the full-on panic in the Democratic party, as well as the vicious war between the Hillary supporters vs Sanders supporters if you want. At least none of the Republican candidates are in imminent danger of indictment.

No panic on my part. I'm convinced that Trump supporters are fair-weather voters and probably won't show up next week. Polls bear that out. In fact, my favored candidate, Rubio, is surging in Iowa.
 
Gill said:
For Years, Trump's Charity Gave Veterans Little More Than Peanuts | The Weekly Standard

I have to give Trump credit for one thing. I don't know how he manages to remember what his position on anything is today based on all the things he's said in the past. He will say anything, no matter how much it conflicts with his comments and positions just a few years before.

He was pro-choice, now he's pro life.
He loved Hillary Clinton (and donated money to her campaign numerous times), now she's incompetent .
He thought Megyn Kelly was wonderful, now she's a tramp.
Claims to be a conservative Republican, yet held two fundraisers for Charlie Crist who had changed parties and running against Rubio.
He hates the ACA, but once called for universal health care.

And as this article shows, he claims he will do anything to help veterans, but his past proves otherwise.


As George Will said, if Trump wins the nomination there will be no conservatives to vote for.
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Well to be fair he does have to pretend to be pro life in order to pass a Republican primary, it's not Donald Trump's fault of the Republican Party of small government is obsessed to a juvenile degree with controlling people's bodies for some reason.
 
Gill said:
I'd also be happy to post a thread on the full-on panic in the Democratic party, as well as the vicious war between the Hillary supporters vs Sanders supporters if you want. At least none of the Republican candidates are in imminent danger of indictment.

No panic on my part. I'm convinced that Trump supporters are fair-weather voters and probably won't show up next week. Polls bear that out. In fact, my favored candidate, Rubio, is surging in Iowa.
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Man is that some crazy ass denial or what, where of you been the last year?

I only wish people like you paid me a dollar every time they said Donald Trump would be finished in the next week
 
Gill said:
I'd also be happy to post a thread on the full-on panic in the Democratic party, as well as the vicious war between the Hillary supporters vs Sanders supporters if you want. At least none of the Republican candidates are in imminent danger of indictment.

No panic on my part. I'm convinced that Trump supporters are fair-weather voters and probably won't show up next week. Polls bear that out. In fact, my favored candidate, Rubio, is surging in Iowa.
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Rubio has more work to do in Iowa than you think.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Iowa Republican Presidential Caucus

And if Trump's supporters are all "fair-weather" (and I am not one Trump's supporters by the way) then how is he obtaining this overall?

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
 
Gill said:
For Years, Trump's Charity Gave Veterans Little More Than Peanuts | The Weekly Standard

I have to give Trump credit for one thing. I don't know how he manages to remember what his position on anything is today based on all the things he's said in the past. He will say anything, no matter how much it conflicts with his comments and positions just a few years before.

He was pro-choice, now he's pro life.
He loved Hillary Clinton (and donated money to her campaign numerous times), now she's incompetent .
He thought Megyn Kelly was wonderful, now she's a tramp.
Claims to be a conservative Republican, yet held two fundraisers for Charlie Crist who had changed parties and running against Rubio.
He hates the ACA, but once called for universal health care.

And as this article shows, he claims he will do anything to help veterans, but his past proves otherwise.


As George Will said, if Trump wins the nomination there will be no conservatives to vote for.
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You forgot the biggest issue which is Trump's only real support. In 2012 he said the GOP/Mitt was too tough on their immigration policy now he has the most extremely tough immigration policy.
 
Gill said:
For Years, Trump's Charity Gave Veterans Little More Than Peanuts | The Weekly Standard

I have to give Trump credit for one thing. I don't know how he manages to remember what his position on anything is today based on all the things he's said in the past. He will say anything, no matter how much it conflicts with his comments and positions just a few years before.

He was pro-choice, now he's pro life.
He loved Hillary Clinton (and donated money to her campaign numerous times), now she's incompetent .
He thought Megyn Kelly was wonderful, now she's a tramp.
Claims to be a conservative Republican, yet held two fundraisers for Charlie Crist who had changed parties and running against Rubio.
He hates the ACA, but once called for universal health care.

And as this article shows, he claims he will do anything to help veterans, but his past proves otherwise.


As George Will said, if Trump wins the nomination there will be no conservatives to vote for.
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Well, from a purely strategic standpoint, if you are on all sides of all issues you never have to concern yourself with being wrong.
 
Trump's supporters definitely aren't just fair weather. Now, whether or not they are smart enough to realize that the primary and general elections are different things and actually need to show up for the primaries is another matter. ;)
 
OrphanSlug said:
Rubio has more work to do in Iowa than you think.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Iowa Republican Presidential Caucus

And if Trump's supporters are all "fair-weather" (and I am not one Trump's supporters by the way) then how is he obtaining this overall?

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
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obtaining what? until Trump voters actually show up at the polls its all hypothetical. Among register voters Trump leads Iowa by 11 points, among likely voters Cruz leads by 2 points. I dont see where the Trump supporters are, like literally. Ron Paul only got 11% of the vote but Paulbots were everywhere talking him up. Sanders and Trump have about the same amount of support 30-40%, Sanders supporters are seen everywhere, but Trumps are few and far between. Everything is telling me that his poll number is inflated by people just interested in Trump the person and not the candidate and by people who probably wont show up at the polls. We will find out Monday but it will be a clear indicator of how real Trump's support is. Will he meet his poll numbers or fall short? I would be surprised if he got 75% of his poll numbers.
 
OrphanSlug said:
The panic among "conservatives" is on full display with each passing article written.
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oh ya

Fox news is all over the place, they are eating there own
 

oh ya

Fox news is all over the place, they are eating there own

Its obvious that Fox news management, like the GOP, is unable to stop Trump from sucking up the air. Love how Fox crows about how important Iowa is, BS, Bachman won he last Iowa caucus, what happened to her? I guess Fox needs the ratings lol
 
Gill said:
For Years, Trump's Charity Gave Veterans Little More Than Peanuts | The Weekly Standard

I have to give Trump credit for one thing. I don't know how he manages to remember what his position on anything is today based on all the things he's said in the past. He will say anything, no matter how much it conflicts with his comments and positions just a few years before.

He was pro-choice, now he's pro life.
He loved Hillary Clinton (and donated money to her campaign numerous times), now she's incompetent .
He thought Megyn Kelly was wonderful, now she's a tramp.
Claims to be a conservative Republican, yet held two fundraisers for Charlie Crist who had changed parties and running against Rubio.
He hates the ACA, but once called for universal health care.

And as this article shows, he claims he will do anything to help veterans, but his past proves otherwise.


As George Will said, if Trump wins the nomination there will be no conservatives to vote for.
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"The Donald J. Trump Foundation has donated $5.5 million"

Are you upset Donald Trump only gave 5.5 million to charity or is it that he has changed positions on issues like every other politician does?
 
yankintx said:
oh ya

Fox news is all over the place, they are eating there own

Its obvious that Fox news management, like the GOP, is unable to stop Trump from sucking up the air. Love how Fox crows about how important Iowa is, BS, Bachman won he last Iowa caucus, what happened to her? I guess Fox needs the ratings lol
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I think I recall Santorum won the Iowa Caucus. Bachmann won the straw poll.
 
Gill said:
I'd also be happy to post a thread on the full-on panic in the Democratic party, as well as the vicious war between the Hillary supporters vs Sanders supporters if you want. At least none of the Republican candidates are in imminent danger of indictment.

No panic on my part. I'm convinced that Trump supporters are fair-weather voters and probably won't show up next week. Polls bear that out. In fact, my favored candidate, Rubio, is surging in Iowa.
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He won't make it to second, but a strong third would be good.

Worth noting, though, is that Trump isn't leading a political coalition - he's leading a movement. That can mean that turnout can surprise you. Barack Obama pulled this same trick in 2008, and then again in 2012.
 
Mason66 said:
"The Donald J. Trump Foundation has donated $5.5 million"

Are you upset Donald Trump only gave 5.5 million to charity or is it that he has changed positions on issues like every other politician does?
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I think its that he actively tried to rout veterans from his properties and that the foundation only gave 57K over 5 year in direct action contributions to veterans groups.

HE DOESNT GIVE A **** ABOUT VETERANS
 
Mason66 said:
"The Donald J. Trump Foundation has donated $5.5 million"

Are you upset Donald Trump only gave 5.5 million to charity or is it that he has changed positions on issues like every other politician does?
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Guess you didn't read the article I linked. He brays about supporting Vets, but gave a measly $57,000. to veteran charities, while giving $5.5 million to others.

Name another politician that has changed his/her position 180 degrees on multiple major issues like Trump.
 
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OrphanSlug said:
Rubio has more work to do in Iowa than you think.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Iowa Republican Presidential Caucus

And if Trump's supporters are all "fair-weather" (and I am not one Trump's supporters by the way) then how is he obtaining this overall?

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
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Never said Rubio would win the caucus, I said he was surging. Your link proves my point. Rubio only needs to finish a strong third in Iowa to be in a good position.
 
Gill said:
Guess you didn't read the article I linked. He brays about supporting Vets, but gave a measly $57,000. to veteran charities, while giving $5.5 million to others.

Name another politician that has changed his/her position 180 degrees on multiple major issues like Trump.
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Uhhhhhh, Hillary...
 
Gill said:
Guess you didn't read the article I linked. He brays about supporting Vets, but gave a measly $57,000. to veteran charities, while giving $5.5 million to others.
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At least he pays attention to them, which is more then this administration does.

There's whisperings of new criticism being directed at the VA over continued ineptitude despite the so-called "reforms".
 
Roadvirus said:
At least he pays attention to them, which is more then this administration does.

There's whisperings of new criticism being directed at the VA over continued ineptitude despite the so-called "reforms".
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There's not two cents difference in how Obama and Trump have treated veterans.
 
Gill said:
For Years, Trump's Charity Gave Veterans Little More Than Peanuts | The Weekly Standard

I have to give Trump credit for one thing. I don't know how he manages to remember what his position on anything is today based on all the things he's said in the past. He will say anything, no matter how much it conflicts with his comments and positions just a few years before.

He was pro-choice, now he's pro life.
He loved Hillary Clinton (and donated money to her campaign numerous times), now she's incompetent .
He thought Megyn Kelly was wonderful, now she's a tramp.
Claims to be a conservative Republican, yet held two fundraisers for Charlie Crist who had changed parties and running against Rubio.
He hates the ACA, but once called for universal health care.

And as this article shows, he claims he will do anything to help veterans, but his past proves otherwise.


As George Will said, if Trump wins the nomination there will be no conservatives to vote for.
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In addition to being a hypocritical flip flopper, he's using the damn vets for his sideshow. It's offensive. Trump is offensive. I'm sick to death of him already.
 
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