Trump: I Have A Great Relationship With Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer

clownboy said:

Did you actually read what he said? Of course you did, and then because it wasn't anything you could hate on Trump about, you decided to not post the question he was answering. I know, by cherrypicking you thought maybe had something you could hang him on. That's lame.

Btw, here was the question:

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Thanks for showing up, clownboy. As a Trump supporter, could you please tell us who you voted for in 2008?

Trump was simply saying that he has good relationships with politicians on the "other side" of him. If you actually think most politicians hate each other, you're completely clueless on how politics actually work. They might seem to hate someone in public so their party can be given some read meat and fire, but most of these lowlifes all hang out with the same people and get along perfectly well behind closed doors.

cpwill said:

Trumps support is strongest among moderate/liberals....

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lol... moderate and liberal Republicans. The "Democrats" who supporting him are Southerners who vote Republican, and are still registered as Democrat -- which means in many cases, they can't vote in Republican primaries. Many of his supporters don't usually turn out for elections anyway. (See http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/u...st-supporters-a-certain-kind-of-democrat.html)

He's drawing from disaffected Republicans, not people who are on the left side of the spectrum.

The blue collar working class has been abandoned generally by the leadership of both parties, but pro single payer, pro choice, eminent domain, no entitlement reform, expand the power of the federal government, etc? These aren't the conservative positions.

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Nativism, birtherism, authoritarianism, sexism, borderline racism, pro-gun, defunding Planned Parenthood (yes, he's now anti-abortion), debt fear mongering, cutting Department of Education, climate change denialism, attacking EPA, anti-regulation, anti-ACA (with no replacement plan), Islamophobia, against minimum wage hikes, censoring Internet... All recent Trump positions. These are not leftist positions.

Top it off with looking to the past with rose-tinted glasses, to appeal to the (white) people who have gotten the shaft. Political nostalgia with a coat of whitewash is the domain of conservatism... if not a key part of its self-identity.

Whatever he said in the past, he has clearly moved to the right, not the left, in order to appeal to Republicans.

You can shout all you want that he's not a "real" conservative and/or a RINO. No one cares. He's a GOP mess, not a leftist one.

Visbek said:

lol... moderate and liberal Republicans. The "Democrats" who supporting him are Southerners who vote Republican, and are still registered as Democrat -- which means in many cases, they can't vote in Republican primaries. Many of his supporters don't usually turn out for elections anyway. (See http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/u...st-supporters-a-certain-kind-of-democrat.html)

He's drawing from disaffected Republicans, not people who are on the left side of the spectrum.

Nativism, birtherism, authoritarianism, sexism, borderline racism, pro-gun, defunding Planned Parenthood (yes, he's now anti-abortion), debt fear mongering, cutting Department of Education, climate change denialism, attacking EPA, anti-regulation, anti-ACA (with no replacement plan), Islamophobia, against minimum wage hikes, censoring Internet... All recent Trump positions. These are not leftist positions.

Top it off with looking to the past with rose-tinted glasses, to appeal to the (white) people who have gotten the shaft. Political nostalgia with a coat of whitewash is the domain of conservatism... if not a key part of its self-identity.

Whatever he said in the past, he has clearly moved to the right, not the left, in order to appeal to Republicans.

You can shout all you want that he's not a "real" conservative and/or a RINO. No one cares. He's a GOP mess, not a leftist one.

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Oh he's certainly a GOP mess. The fact that he's had to disavow or play down his long-held positions (though he"s still defending single payer) in a Republican primary rather reinforces the point.

Yes, you have moderate/liberal Republicans, just as you have moderate/conservative Democrats. You just increasingly have fewer of each. Trump draws heavily from each.

He's not small government conservative, he's not social conservative, and while he acts like a foreign policy hawk conservative sometimes, he switches back and forth (one week it's leave-ISIL-to-Putin, the next it's bomb-them-to-smithereens), and doesn't really seem to have enough of a grasp on the issues to really come down firmly on one side or the other.

So, out of the three legs of conservatism, Trump scores... 0.5. He's conservative like Hillary is actually left of Bernie Sanders.

He's also not anti-regulation (the Donald loves him some regulatory power), and his solution to the ACA is to expand the governments role and move us closer to single payer. I don't see any conservatives calling for reestablishing the Fairness Doctrine or establishing Safe Spaces, but I do see liberals doing these things (to be fair, though, I don't think it was an anti-speech impetus that motivated that, I think it was his moronicism matched with his instinct for solving problems with government).

And political nostalgia with a coat of whitewash is a conservative thing? I'm sorry - I could have sworn you said that, but I had Eddie Schultz on one side hollering about how the unions in the old days built this country and made us strong, and Bernie Sanders yelling about how back in the 60s we had higher minimum wages, higher taxes, and lower income inequality on the other.

Visbek said:

lol... Leftists don't support him, and aren't keeping his poll numbers afloat among Republican voters.

Gallup favorability polls, week Dec 1 - Jan 11, shows him with +27 favorable among Republicans, -27 among Independents, -70 among Democrats.

Trump is exploiting the nativists, and the working class abandoned by the Republicans. He's a GOP trainwreck. Don't blame him on anyone else, just because he claims he can chat with Pelosi and Schumer.

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No kidding.

What Dems support him?:lamo

Face it Republicans....many (Most???) of you support him.

Gotta love the Jedi Mind Trick.:lol:

cpwill said:

Here's Trump. Bragging about how he's part of the Establishment, how he schmoozes with the Establishment, how he can get along great with the Establishment...

.... his supporters will probably claim that this is just further proof of how anti-Establishment he is.

Anywho. Evidence #45,982 for when you lefties start blaming Conservatives for this man that he isn't one of us:

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Its not registered Democrats that will be voting for him in the Republican primaries. Who exactly will be to blame if he is the Republican nominee?

Soho gator said:

He is widely considered the best or second best mayor of NYC. H s certainly no idiot.

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I ain't in NYC. As a matter of fact a vast majority of the people in the country ain't in NYC. Yeah, I said Ain't.

Hari Seldon said:

Its not registered Democrats that will be voting for him in the Republican primaries.

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Why wouldn't it be? Plenty of states (including Iowa) allow cross-over

cpwill said:

Here's Trump. Bragging about how he's part of the Establishment, how he schmoozes with the Establishment, how he can get along great with the Establishment...

.... his supporters will probably claim that this is just further proof of how anti-Establishment he is.

Anywho. Evidence #45,982 for when you lefties start blaming Conservatives for this man that he isn't one of us:

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"Great relationship"? What in the hell does that mean? He's never once had to work with them in a political setting. I have a great relationship with Chuck Schumer, too. I once sent him an email and he emailed me back. Woot!

Yes, having a "good relationship with Nancy Pelosi" is always my #1 voting concern when choosing a candidate.

cpwill said:

Here's Trump. Bragging about how he's part of the Establishment, how he schmoozes with the Establishment, how he can get along great with the Establishment...

.... his supporters will probably claim that this is just further proof of how anti-Establishment he is.

Anywho. Evidence #45,982 for when you lefties start blaming Conservatives for this man that he isn't one of us:

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So he isn't "one of you" because he establish a relationship with Democrats ?????

Isn't that what is wrong with Washington now? Both sides don't get alone which results in nothing getting done?

Soho gator said:

He is widely considered the best or second best mayor of NYC. H s certainly no idiot.

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By who?

cpwill said:

Thanks for showing up, clownboy. As a Trump supporter, could you please tell us who you voted for in 2008?

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Obama, who'd you vote for in 2008?

Politically Trump is all over the place on topics.

Donald Trump on the Issues

Look at some of the things he talked about in 1999, 2000 and 2001 compared to now. I don't know if you can call them flip flops after 15 years, but they are changes.

cpwill said:

Here's Trump. Bragging about how he's part of the Establishment, how he schmoozes with the Establishment, how he can get along great with the Establishment...

.... his supporters will probably claim that this is just further proof of how anti-Establishment he is.

Anywho. Evidence #45,982 for when you lefties start blaming Conservatives for this man that he isn't one of us:

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I'm afraid you are too late. It's over. Trump is going to be your nominee and now you get to wallow in it.

In his effect on everything from Fox News to the Koch Brothers to the newspapers that endorse candidates, Trump has disrupted every single aspect of the game of politics and created new rules -- and based on the polls, what he's done is working.

And so far, most of the political establishment has been wrong about what this all means. They said he wouldn't last and now he's leading in the polls. They said he wouldn't disclose his financial information or quit reality TV and he did both. They said that every insulting, ridiculous, inaccurate and offensive thing that Trump has said would hurt him. No sign of this. They said no network would bow to his demands for shorter debates -- but they did.

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Why Donald Trump is beating Fox News -- and GOP rivals - CNN.com

iguanaman said:

I'm afraid you are too late. It's over. Trump is going to be your nominee and now you get to wallow in it.

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:shrug: that's the narrative now. We'll see - we've got a primary season yet to go.

Regardless, Trump isn't going to be my nominee. I'll vote third party instead.

clownboy said:

cpwill said:

As a Trump supporter, could you please tell us who you voted for in 2008?

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Obama

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Thanks Clownboy.

who'd you vote for in 2008?

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Me? I voted for McCain - Obama was a pretty obvious far-left kinda guy.

cpwill said:

Thanks Clownboy.



Me? I voted for McCain - Obama was a pretty obvious far-left kinda guy.

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From his speeches, no he wasn't. In fact his speeches were much like Eisenhower's. But of course he was lying, but I didn't know that then.

I refused to even consider voting for that old crook McCain.

clownboy said:

From his speeches, no he wasn't. In fact his speeches were much like Eisenhower's. But of course he was lying, but I didn't know that then.

I refused to even consider voting for that old crook McCain.

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Obama said liberal things while sounding moderate. He was good at it - it was his gift. And some were lies, but his background made it pretty clear to anyone who checked up on him that he would govern as he has.

McCain, while not terribly conservative, was a much better option.

cpwill said:

Obama said liberal things while sounding moderate. He was good at it - it was his gift. And some were lies, but his background made it pretty clear to anyone who checked up on him that he would govern as he has.

McCain, while not terribly conservative, was a much better option.

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You know, PBS did two follow the candidate on a campaign day specials. One for Obama, one for McCain. I'm not exaggerating when I say the majority of McCain's day was take a nap followed by 15 minutes of soundbite followed by take a nap.

Not to mention he's as crooked as a three dollar bill.

As you said, Obama lied very effectively and I bought it in my desire to avoid voting for the crook.

cpwill said:

Why wouldn't it be? Plenty of states (including Iowa) allow cross-over

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You really believe it will be registered Democrats that will decide any of those Republican primaries? How many states allow cross-overs?

cpwill said:

Here's Trump. Bragging about how he's part of the Establishment, how he schmoozes with the Establishment, how he can get along great with the Establishment...

.... his supporters will probably claim that this is just further proof of how anti-Establishment he is.

Anywho. Evidence #45,982 for when you lefties start blaming Conservatives for this man that he isn't one of us:

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This surprises no on other than the Trumpbots and they cannot hear anything negative about their Lord and Savior. The good thing is enough people know Trump is a BS Artist and is none of things he claims to ensure he never sits behind the desk in the Oval office.

Fiddytree said:

I somewhat liked Romney. However, If Donald Trump was alive thousands of years ago, he would have been exiled from Athens.

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The only difference between Romney and Trump is that Romney did not change party affiliation five times and he actually enacted into law many of the things conservatives are against. Although by Trump donating to liberal candidates that conservatives despise he did help those liberal candidates win who did enact many things into law that conservatives dislike.