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Report: 10% of college graduates think Judge Judy is on the Supreme Court

SenorXm/Sirius said:
Yeah, I have a 16 YO niece, she's taking that now, but it's mostly history of the American gov't. She doesn't have a clue about the A.G. NOW, or current events. I promise you she doesn't know who is the VP of the USA now. And she'sa smart kid, straight A's. But current events and news, she hasn't a clue.

They don't teach the kids current events or what currently going on in the US, and most kids don't care at all what's going on. There's so many distractions and other things to do nowadays the kids just don't care, and the schools don't teach them, so 10% think Judge Judy is on the USSC.
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A couple years ago I was taking an online college course and the subject of immigration was the topic of the week for class discussion, especially the requirements to become a US citizen. We were shown example tests that had to be passed. Virtually everybody (who were all young, late teens/early 20s, I was in my late 40s, note the age/world experience difference) felt the test was too hard. Many pointed out that they could not answer most of the questions, one question being who the current Vice-President is.

Really? Seriously? I said that that question should be standard and that everybody should know the answer. I pointed out that it wasn't unreasonable to expect people to know who the current Vice-President is. It's not like they were asking who John Quincy Adams' VP was, or Grover Cleveland's? No, current, right now.

I was the only student in the class who felt this way, and the only person who agreed with me was the instructor. The instructor didn't say this specifically, but from her words I sensed she was very frustrated and disappointed at the younger student's... not only lack of caring to know the information, but whining that the test was too hard.
 
radcen said:
A couple years ago I was taking an online college course and the subject of immigration was the topic of the week for class discussion, especially the requirements to become a US citizen. We were shown example tests that had to be passed. Virtually everybody (who were all young, late teens/early 20s, I was in my late 40s, note the age/world experience difference) felt the test was too hard. Many pointed out that they could not answer most of the questions, one question being who the current Vice-President is.

Really? Seriously? I said that that question should be standard and that everybody should know the answer. I pointed out that it wasn't unreasonable to expect people to know who the current Vice-President is. It's not like they were asking who John Quincy Adams' VP was, or Grover Cleveland's? No, current, right now.

I was the only student in the class who felt this way, and the only person who agreed with me was the instructor. The instructor didn't say this specifically, but from her words I sensed she was very frustrated and disappointed at the younger student's... not only lack of caring to know the information, but whining that the test was too hard.
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I don't understand why even lower schools don't hammer current events. My kids come home learning about Christopher Columbus, the colonies, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln et al, but when it comes to current events they can't get past who the current president is. Learning from history is very important but if you don't know what is currently going on, how the heck can you learn from history?
 
I have two sons...one a college student, the other not. Neither of them know who Judge Judy is.
 
Moderate Right said:
I don't understand why even lower schools don't hammer current events. My kids come home learning about Christopher Columbus, the colonies, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln et al, but when it comes to current events they can't get past who the current president is. Learning from history is very important but if you don't know what is currently going on, how the heck can you learn from history?
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Because reality has a well known liberal bias and right wing idiots would whine endlessly about "liberal indoctrination" aka acclimating the students to the reality of the current state of American politics.
 
MrT said:
25% of Americans believe in a literal interpretation of the bible...so yea...we've been screwed for a while.
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for as much as people complain about bigotry this is the perfect example that it is still alive and well.
 
I look at it this way:

90% of college students know that Judge Judy isn't a supreme court justice.

That's an "A." At worst, it's an "A-" if you're unlucky enough to have such a scale.
 
longview said:
So not only can ignorance be painful, it can also be expensive.:mrgreen:
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And it takes time, effort, and energy to achieve nirvana, evidently.

The bigger question is what schools are producing these morons, and how is it possible.
 
I love it. A thread full of people that if asked completely random questions about various topics they'd probably miss a few are talking about how ruined our country is because people missed a few completely random questions about a topic.

Some people don't give a **** who is on the supreme court. I know that's hard to believe for a group of people sitting on a forum about politics, but its true. And it doesn't mean that the sky is falling or that they're stupid.
 
These kinds of things always make me smile...to hide the horror I am truly feeling.
It reminds me of this (students signing petition to deport Americans to make room for illegal immigrants):



Edit: Sad note. The article found it necessary to explain to the reader who Judge Judy is and isn't.
 
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SMTA said:
And it takes time, effort, and energy to achieve nirvana, evidently.

The bigger question is what schools are producing these morons, and how is it possible.
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Sarcasm aside, I still think a University education is a good value, but one has to wonder.
I was teaching a lab one time in the Engineering school where I was working, one of the
students asked me how detailed I wanted the lab reports.
I told them, they should be able to go into the atrium and any Humanities student out there
should be able to follow your steps! NOOOOOO!
 
Absentglare said:
Because reality has a well known liberal bias and right wing idiots would whine endlessly about "liberal indoctrination" aka acclimating the students to the reality of the current state of American politics.
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You may have a small point, but you don't apply it to all sides. Everyone has their truths and their slants. It would be nice if schools (including colleges) were able to teach current events without having a slanted agenda while doing it. Yes, most of the mainstream media and colleges are left biased so they would have a left slant. Then of course there are media (and even schools) which are right biased. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could get unbiased news coverage without it slanting one way or the other? You are right, I can't think of even one media or even school of any kind anywhere that doesn't have some kind of slanted bias, one way or the other, whether that bias is large or small. No one anywhere can be trusted 100% to be totally neutral. The trouble with the extremists on both sides is that they think their news is accurate and everyone else's is biased.
 
Moderate Right said:
I don't understand why even lower schools don't hammer current events.
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 My kids come home learning about Christopher Columbus, the colonies, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln et al, but when it comes to current events they can't get past who the current president is. Learning from history is very important but if you don't know what is currently going on, how the heck can you learn from history?
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I remember when I was in elementary school every week we read My Weekly Reader (I'm 73 - years old).

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shrubnose said:
It looks like you have to pay a lot to be ignorant.
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Greetings, shrubnose. :2wave:

It looks like it's just another example of something serving as a status symbol! "I went to college and learned stuff - all you did was go to work at a job, you poor uneducated ignorant thing!" :lamo:

I worked for years before I ever went to college, and I will say that I learned more about real life while working than I ever did in college, but by God I have a degree so I can feel superior to those that didn't? :no: Why not? Because I know that auto mechanics, electricians, and plumbers, among other trades, generally make more per hour than teachers and policemen, which might not be fair, but it is an unhappy fact in today's world. And while we do need both in today's society, and kudos to those who teach our children and keep us safe, even scientists with PhD's want a car that runs, lights in the house when they flip a switch, and drains not spewing filth when they're clogged - and that's also a fact, and if they don't know how to fix those things themselves, they pay someone who probably never saw the inside of a college classroom. Does that mean we're probably self-centered bas*****'s at heart? :shock: :mrgreen:
 
Moderate Right said:
You may have a small point, but you don't apply it to all sides. Everyone has their truths and their slants. It would be nice if schools (including colleges) were able to teach current events without having a slanted agenda while doing it. Yes, most of the mainstream media and colleges are left biased so they would have a left slant. Then of course there are media (and even schools) which are right biased. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could get unbiased news coverage without it slanting one way or the other? You are right, I can't think of even one media or even school of any kind anywhere that doesn't have some kind of slanted bias, one way or the other, whether that bias is large or small. No one anywhere can be trusted 100% to be totally neutral. The trouble with the extremists on both sides is that they think their news is accurate and everyone else's is biased.
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My snarky point was that there's no way for teachers to educate children on modern politics without being potentially accused of bias.

If i try to be objective, and describe the state of politics today, i think you'd find i had a left wing bias. I would disagree. Conversely, you might have the opposing bias.
 
Looking back at my own days in college I recall that about 10% or more of the students failed or dropped every single class I ever attended. IIRC, about 50% of all entering freshmen never graduate.

There are some real morons walking around on college campuses who have no business being there so 10% believing that Judge Judy sits on the Supreme Court actually seems a little low.
 
Moot said:
Perhaps, the ball dropped when they stopped requiring students to take a civics class in order to graduate from HS.
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Alot of requirements have been dropped over the decades. For example when I was in school in cali, from elementary to high school, us history was not required at all except the civil war and the american revolution, American history was an optional class for seniors in high school only. At the same time world history covered all history, and was mandatory. World history was important, but so was american history beyond basic knowledge.

When my youngest brother was going through high school, they were talking about dropping all algebra except basic algebra, woodworking class,art, automotive class etc. Granted algebra is useless by itself in most jobs, it taught people how to think and understand math in a different way.
 
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