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Washington: It's now Illegal to Ask a Man What He is Doing in a Women’s Restroom

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NonoBadDog said:
All I stated was that there is no level to which some humans will stoop in perversion. You responded with some statement about lesbians in a bathroom. I have no idea where that came from, wait, you came up with it. You took my statement about a crap covered guy hiding in a porta-potty and tried to turn it around to a couple of lesbians in a bathroom and you call ME incoherent? LOL, that is precious.
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That poster is all over the board, flailing and floundering. How the hell lesbians came up in a discussion about trans people in a rest room (sprinkled in with a bunch of finger wagging, "you people are all puritans and I want your kindergartners to see the genitals of an opposite sex adult!" posts) is beyond me.
 
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tres borrachos said:
That poster is all over the board, flailing and floundering. How the hell lesbians came up in a discussion about trans people in a rest room (sprinkled in with a bunch of finger wagging, "you people are all puritans and I want your kindergartners to see the genitals of an opposite sex adult!" posts) is beyond me.
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Me too. I hope he drives better than his posts about this subject were. It would be like bumper cars in real traffic. I don't get the whole "I have a right to show everyone my genitals" thing.
 
Peter King said:
Thanks Obama? You do know that this is Washington STATE and not Washington DC?

And if a man dressed as a man comes into a woman's dressing room I think it is still reasonable (and I do not think illegal) to ask why he is in there. This is about transgenders, men who dress and act/behave like women and women who dress/act like men. I know it is a difficult subject but it would be worse for a transgender man to have to go with his dress on into a men's bathroom just because that person had not had a gender reassignment operation yet. Or a transgender woman to have to use the women's restroom even though she is dressed and lives like a man.

I think it is a very difficult subject and to just assume that men dressed like men cannot be asked what they are doing in a women's dressing room seems a bit out there. This as said is about gender identity, not about perverse men going into a women's dressing room (while dressed like a man) to peep at women changing attire. This is about a visual women going into a women's bathroom to use a stall and go to the bathroom.
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Finally, we agree on something if this does not include open showers.
 
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tres borrachos said:
That poster is all over the board, flailing and floundering. How the hell lesbians came up in a discussion about trans people in a rest room (sprinkled in with a bunch of finger wagging, "you people are all puritans and I want your kindergartners to see the genitals of an opposite sex adult!" posts) is beyond me.
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He's a leftist, he has to somehow juggle directly contradictory statements, and try to look like its rational. I'd be all over the board trying to defend that too.
 
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Women in general should be horrified that their government has done this to them.
Business have the right to look out for the safety of all their customers.

that includes not allowing men into the women changing room.
this doesn't surprise me at all and one reason I will never move to that looney bin of a state.
they are getting to be as bad or worse than CA.
 
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tres borrachos said:
That poster is all over the board, flailing and floundering.
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Ah yes, if tres borrachos says that I'm "flailing and floudering" about the forums, I guess we should all take that on board as fact.

Meanwhile, I'll leave that comment for the reader to judge for themselves.

How the hell lesbians came up in a discussion about trans people in a rest room
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That's pretty obvious if you bothered to read any of the context, but I'll spell it out for you:

This is a thread where we have a whole cadre of people who are basically saying if we give trans people even the slightest amount of dignity, then the entire world of predators will come down on women (amongst other statements). In comes the person who I responded to, saying in essence "Never lose sight of what lengths people will go to satisfy their paraphilia."

If you're not delusional and bother to read the subtext --indeed, pretty much any other reading would make the statement completely irrelevant to this thread-- that he's saying that this will lead to leagues of sexual predators preying on women.

So I decided to test how serious anyone was about this, and how far they were willing to protect women from sexual predators --not on the basis of them actually being a sexual predator, mind, just on the basis that they might be. (Again, let's ignore the fact that they already have laws in place to stop sexual harassment, and as Glenn Contrarian points out, the law explicitly doesn't prohibit people from being removed from restrooms and locker rooms contra the OP, anyways. You just can't do it on the basis of their gender alone, they have to be doing something objectively wrong --e.g. peeping or being lewd-- and out they go.)

(sprinkled in with a bunch of finger wagging, "you people are all puritans and I want your kindergartners to see the genitals of an opposite sex adult!" posts)
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Yes, I said it was a Puritanical leftover for you to not want your children to be exposed to "genitalia." It is a ridiculous presumption, which assumes the heterosexuality of the child and assumes that somehow seeing genitalia is determental to children --a claim that no one here seems to be bothering themselves to substantiate at any level, and instead have gone back to "Oh, but this is how I want to raise my children!" Fine, but that doesn't give me any evidence that young children are damaged by seeing human genitalia.

Also, re the bull**** that you're spread about me telling people how to raise their children --I didn't. Although, it's fascinating that discussing child-rearing methods immediately is converted into me telling other people how they must raise their children, rather than what it was, which is question about why they want to raise their children that way. As for as I said, I think it is antiquated, but I also said that she can raise her children however she likes (and said so multiple times). The only thing I said was that she can't just crate arbitrary rules for her children that society suddenly has to obey --raising children doesn't work like that. Society has no obligation to respect every last one of her arbitrary rules when she is out in public. It's a public space, there's public laws, and so forth. Apparently that's pretty scandalous, although I'm failing to see how it's anything more than a really obvious fact of how all societies work. Perhaps you'd be so good as to enlighten me.

US Conservative said:
He's a leftist, he has to somehow juggle directly contradictory statements, and try to look like its rational. I'd be all over the board trying to defend that too.
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Sure, just say that I have to juggle contradictory statements --I'm sure that your bare assertion just converts that into fact.

It's kind of been an interesting experience on this thread. It more or less vindicates my perspective on conservatives, which is that they are pretty awful about debating. I've attacked Hillary many, many times and had perfectly amicable debates with liberals on their candidates/policies. Not every single one of you, but generically, the conservatives seem to make everything extremely personal and extremely emotional immediately off the bat. I must admit, it's testing my ability to not get very rude very quickly.
 
Re: Washington state:It's now Illegal to Ask a Man What He is Doing in a Women’s Rest

You know how to solve this? Go to the bathroom and mind your own business.
 
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Glen Contrarian said:
And of course you and the rest of the right-wingers on DP decided to not actually READ the law, to understand what the heck it REALLY means from a legal standpoint, to wit:

Any action taken against a person who is using a restroom or
other gender-segregated facility, such as removing a person, should be
taken due to that person's actions or behavior while in the facility,
and must be unrelated to gender expression or gender identity. The
same standards of conduct and behavior must be consistently applied to
all facility users, regardless of gender expression or gender identity.

If you'll look elsewhere in the law, it doesn't say that just any guy can walk into the girl's bathroom and leer at girls peeing and claim that "I can do this because I'm really a girl" - in fact, the above section is broad enough to prosecute the SOB who does so, lock him up, and have him register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. In other words, any individual using the other sex's restroom needs to be walking the walk, not just talking the talk.

Of course you're going to dismiss all that...but what's going to happen in the real world? There will be few - or more likely, zero - cases of horny guys camping out in girls restrooms claiming that they're really girls. But there WILL be a lot of LGBT's who can now live a more normal life.

But I forget - most of y'all think that homosexuality is actually a choice...as if a guy can actually choose to like being anally penetrated.
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what are you doing?
dont quote the actual law and facts when its easier to just make stuff up and go on a nonsensical hyperbolic rants based on fantasy!!
 
Hi. I'm your new neighbor. :lol:

This is all true.

Unfortunately, I live just a few miles from Seattle with its rainbow crosswalks, and the world's largest tunnel boring machine stuck for 2 years underneath the city. :(

But, hey! We have really beautiful scenery here. :mrgreen:
 
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ludin said:
Women in general should be horrified that their government has done this to them.
Business have the right to look out for the safety of all their customers.

that includes not allowing men into the women changing room.
this doesn't surprise me at all and one reason I will never move to that looney bin of a state.
they are getting to be as bad or worse than CA.
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Are you suggesting transgender people are an inherent danger to women?
 
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Deuce said:
Are you suggesting transgender people are an inherent danger to women?
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nope I am suggesting that men that go into women's bathrooms and locker rooms are an inherent danger to women.
 
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ludin said:
nope I am suggesting that men that go into women's bathrooms and locker rooms are an inherent danger to women.
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and not only is your suggestion is factually not true, its illogical. :shrug:
 
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ludin said:
nope I am suggesting that men that go into women's bathrooms and locker rooms are an inherent danger to women.
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Tell me your opinion about "gun free zone" signs.
 
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Deuce said:
Tell me your opinion about "gun free zone" signs.
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doesn't stop criminals does it?
 
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ludin said:
doesn't stop criminals does it?
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But the stick figure sign with or without a dress stops a sexual predator?
 
More front page crack news reports from RW media uncovering important issues and problems which face our beloved country…..and yall will have a hard time…if ever…………..being reported in the liberal MSM.........to cover up the wicked machinations of Obama and his ilk in there efforts to destroy the American way of life
 
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Deuce said:
But the stick figure sign with or without a dress stops a sexual predator?
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well since anyone seeing a guy walking into a women's bathroom and then telling something then yes it would.
or stopping them in general and asking why they are in there.

now in WA state you don't have the right to find out why a guy is going into a women bathroom for no reason.
 
JoeTrumps said:
You Will be Made to Care: Washington State Makes it Illegal to Ask a Man What He is Doing in a Women's Restroom | RedState



would be funny if it wasn't so sad. this is what liberal thinking eventually leads you to: pure idiocy.

thanks Obama

p.s. here is a link to the actual law as written. http://www.fpiw.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/WSR-15-24-071-WAC-162-32.pdf
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These transgender people are starting to get annoying. Its time to start weening them off national privileged. They are obviously the most whiniest. ILLEGAL TO ASK A QUESTION. Thanks to their absurdity they are going to end up mythologizing their current characater into this section of histories stereotypes.

The year when pepole realized bully cops exsist and some overzealous trans activists are using their minority status to give themselves EXTRA privilege over normal citizens.
 
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ah...in principle this will protect trans-gendered individuals from discrimination. in practice...it's a green-light for pedophiles and rapists.
 
Havent read the whole thread yet but it looks like the law is for private businesses, not public places? Is that right?

If private businesses, employers have every opportunity (and IMO responsibilty) to make this known beforehand to employees.
 
I've explained here before that the 14th amendment guarantees equal treatment under the law. That equal treatment applies across gender.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
These transgender people are starting to get annoying. Its time to start weening them off national privileged. They are obviously the most whiniest. ILLEGAL TO ASK A QUESTION. Thanks to their absurdity they are going to end up mythologizing their current characater into this section of histories stereotypes.

The year when pepole realized bully cops exsist and some overzealous trans activists are using their minority status to give themselves EXTRA privilege over normal citizens.
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Yup, transgenders are such cry babies they need protections from not only pronouns, but questions too.
 
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