Re: Muslims hilariously troll the hell out of ISIS after their call for new jihadists
These are highly misinformed and presumptuous positions though, you cannot claim to know what these muslims believe, you can't even claim to know the supposed words of the prophet and his actions when the Quran itself and how it came to be is still a matter of debate, see for example :
Qur’anic studies, as a field of academic research, appears today to be in a state of disarray. Those of us who study Islam’s origins have to admit collectively that we simply do not know some very basic things about the Qur’an – things so basic that the knowledge of them is usually taken for granted by scholars dealing with other texts. They include such questions as: How did the Qur’an originate? Where did it come from, and when did it first appear? How was it first written? In what kind of language was – is – it written? What form did it first take? Who constituted its first audience? How was it transmitted from one generation to another, especially in its early years? When, how, and by whom was it codified? Those familiar with the Qur’an and the scholarship on it will know that to ask even one of these questions immediately plunges us into realms of grave uncertainty and has the potential to spark intense debate. To put it another way, on these basic issues there is little consensus even among the well-trained scholars who work on them.
From the introduction to The Quran in Its Historical Context, Reynolds.
You are essentially taking a Wahabbi/Daeshi extremist interpretation of Islam and then declaring (like they do) that anyone who does not believe what you claim is the truth is not a true Muslim. Who are you and who are they to decide who is and isn't a Muslim?
I mean there are "reformed" Jews and Christians who marry gay people when the death sentence for gays in the bible could not be any more clear. Just like you have come to accept this reformed version of Judaism/Christianity as being not in contradiction with moral and good values then you should allow Muslims the same level of supposed hypocrisy.
The Quran is simply a more enjoyable (particularly in the poetic Arabic its written in) version of the bible, it tells the same stories but with less bloodshed, for example God tells Jews in the Quran to dwell in the land of Israel (And We said after him to the Children of Israel, "Dwell (in) the land, then when comes (the) promise (of) the Hereafter, We will bring you (as) a mixed crowd.") not murder everything that breathes (16: But in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God gives you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes)
We can compare religions all you want, but the bottom line is no one has monopoly on Islam, not Isis or the muslims mocking it, there is no central authority in Islam (similar to the Vatican) and people in the Quran are instructed to learn and think for themselves. Take for example Ibn Sina (Avicenna):
Avicenna was a devout Muslim and sought to reconcile rational philosophy with Islamic theology. His aim was to prove the existence of God and His creation of the world scientifically and through reason and logic.[41] Avicenna's views on Islamic theology (and philosophy) were enormously influential, forming part of the core of the curriculum at Islamic religious schools until the 19th century.[42] Avicenna wrote a number of short treatises dealing with Islamic theology. These included treatises on the prophets (whom he viewed as "inspired philosophers"), and also on various scientific and philosophical interpretations of the Quran, such as how Quranic cosmology corresponds to his own philosophical system. In general these treatises linked his philosophical writings to Islamic religious ideas; for example, the body's afterlife.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna
He:
arrived hence at the “higher-truth” conclusions that the world is eternal, that God does not know the particulars of what we do and say, that there will be no bodily resurrection
on a Day of Divine Judgement, that there is no Paradise or Hellfire, and that the specific prescriptions and proscriptions of Revealed law are not intrinsically true, but only instrumentally so (meaning that they are not necessarily any truer or more valid than other forms of truth).
What Is Islam?: The Importance of Being Islamic: Shahab Ahmed
Certainly this guy is not a Muslim under your or Daesh's criteria, and yet he is a revered figure all around the Islamic world.
